Abortion is equal to killing someone out of the womb and therefore should be made illegal

November 15, 2016, 3:27 pm

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The debate "Abortion is equal to killing someone out of the womb and therefore should be made illegal" was started by jack_tim_45 on November 15, 2016, 3:27 pm. 34 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 26 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

neveralone posted 7 arguments, jack_tim_45 posted 5 arguments, thereal posted 1 argument, mmjd14 posted 3 arguments, Christian posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
mike1253890 posted 1 argument, Radhikadhawan posted 4 arguments, PsychDave posted 1 argument, Ematio posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

jack_tim_45, neveralone, dalton7532, Blue_ray, RogueAmerican, QueenSleepy, Your_dad, Christian, mmjd14, Blu_Ray, Yanksxx21, sabrina, thereal, redstar, InksEvermore, Maxshe88, makson, Frank and 16 visitors agree.
PsychDave, mike1253890, Radhikadhawan, arpita00, emshanley, Pugsly, Mr_Beuller, Argument_fightme and 18 visitors disagree.

I am strongly against abortion as it is murder, but I'm not sure illegalizing it is the right way

2 years, 2 months ago

Is it wrong to kill a living thing?

2 years, 2 months ago
Nemiroff
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who called the fetus dead?

2 years, 2 months ago

How can you call a fetus dead? You can't get life from non life. Thus it is illegal to kill a living developing human.

2 years, 2 months ago

It's a developing human. Kids don't become adults until later but they are still human. Babies don't become kids until later but they are still human. Developing humans are still human because they will be born.

2 years, 2 months ago
mmjd14
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tell me what you think the definition is.

2 years, 2 months ago
mmjd14
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20 days

2 years, 2 months ago

What's the definition of a living person?

2 years, 2 months ago
PsychDave
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And when does brain activity start?

2 years, 2 months ago
mmjd14
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the child has a heartbeat in 18 days get your facts straight before you call it cells

2 years, 2 months ago

any counter arguments?

2 years, 6 months ago
jack_tim_45
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*sleep around

2 years, 6 months ago

Ignorance is no justification to kill. People need to teach their kids to not good around and what to say or do when tempted, not to just do whatever they feel. Like I said, their is adoption and foster care as a back up plan, it may suck in America but it's a lot better than not existing at all.

2 years, 6 months ago
neveralone
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everything is wrong in it. this is life. u have a responsibility to teach that child now. it's like u r saying if I get in a wreck and it kills somone it's okay I can just get rid of the body. would u say that's responsible? I definitely wouldn't. when u choose that u r going to have sex before marriage u must also accept that u might bring a child in this world and that it's ur responsibility now to teach them right and wrong and about life. it is a responsibility. not a choice

2 years, 6 months ago
Radhikadhawan
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I don't think we r quite so sensible at that time to understand this can lead to pregnancy... Isn't it... Sometimes it just happens and abortion is needed coz we don't want the money... Nothing is wrong in it..

2 years, 6 months ago
jack_tim_45
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I never said don't have sex, I said be prepared to have a kid. You don't just get to risk making human life for a high and then if it happens kill it. For the dying mother, there's always C-sections, for pretty much anything else there's adoption.

2 years, 6 months ago
jack_tim_45
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https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/wdhbb.html
educate yourself

2 years, 6 months ago

it is murder to some. we can't prove when the baby is alive. we believe it's alive earlier than u and we simply see u killing babies. something we all can agree is bad.

so does the dad's. that is ur responsibility and his when u get pregnant and it's his kid.

it's to late she is now having a child something special that shouldn't be looked at as something to be fixed.

no men shouldn't have sex before marriage either but when they do its their responsibility to bring that child in the worls

2 years, 6 months ago
Radhikadhawan
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It's not murder.. I have said earlier too.... When she gives birth to her child her responsibilities triple..... If she does not want to take the responsibility... Does she not have her career or what... Are only men allowed to go ahead in life.... And someone said that rubbish about not having sex... Are only men allowed to have it??

2 years, 6 months ago
neveralone
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*we aren't superstitious.

also u actually prefer democratic views on economics but I would rather be Republican because Democrat party overall says to be fair to everyone that we all have rights then steamrolls on Christians. now tell me how that's fair.
I want everything to be fair for everyone but democrats don't support this view through SOME not all there actions.

2 years, 6 months ago
neveralone
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we are superstitious. we see truth while u prefer to stay blinded

2 years, 6 months ago
RogueAmerican
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Archaic superstitions? Let me ask you, why is murder wrong. If I had no idea i was dead or going to die when if i did, why would that be immoral.

2 years, 6 months ago

but as we have repeatedly explained, it isn't murder. it is only your archaic superstitions that force you to think that way.

2 years, 6 months ago
RogueAmerican
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Even if it were murder?

2 years, 6 months ago

I feel it's her personal life so she has the right to do anything in it..

2 years, 6 months ago
RogueAmerican
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Often "abortion for the life of a mother" is not a real thing. You never need the intention of killing the baby to save the mother. Abortion is always immoral. If you dont understand this point, look up double effect.

2 years, 6 months ago
RogueAmerican
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I err on the side of life. You err on the side murder.

2 years, 6 months ago
Radhikadhawan
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Agreed.. This was what I was actually trying to explain.... The cause of abortion is different in different cases so making it illegal is actually impractical....

2 years, 6 months ago

abortion is murder. pences view on it is ideal, that abortion should only be allowed in cases of rape and incest and if the womans life is in danger. for any other reason, it should be a federal crime. according to stupid liberal logic, killing a pregnant woman is double homicide but abortion is a right??. i say killing a pregnant woman is double homicide and so is abortion.

2 years, 6 months ago

And plus as I have stated earlier there can be just innumerable reasons for abortion not just that killing one coz u don't want the child...

2 years, 6 months ago
Radhikadhawan
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That's really silly... I too know first there is zygote, then embryo and then foetus.... Abortion can be done only in first 8 weeks and till then the embryo is just like a mass of cells...

2 years, 6 months ago
neveralone
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exactly

2 years, 6 months ago
jack_tim_45
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I don't know where you are getting your facts from but their is life in the baby from the point the sperm fertilizes the egg and it becomes a one cell zygote(tiny embryo). It is a completely separate being with its own set of DNA and chromosomes half of which are from the father. From that point on there is no change except it getting bigger and organs developing. There is no definite point of consciousness being developed in fact a baby does not develop what we know as full consciousness until months or even a year after birth. If you don't want a baby don't have sex, if you really love someone enough to f*** them you should marry them, things are a lot easier like that, free college, second income in a household, etc.

2 years, 6 months ago
Radhikadhawan
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Abortion is wrong but only when women do it coz they hate children.... There innumerable reasons for abortion.... Making it illegal will just worsen today's situation... U should be a bit practical... A woman has to handle children she knows well enough whether she is in the position to take responsibility or not... And one more thing abortion is not taking someone's life... Coz it can be done only till 3 months and till then there is no life in the baby.... Life comes only after 7 or 8 months so ur that argument is also wrong..

2 years, 6 months ago
RogueAmerican
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Abortion for the life of the mother is a non-sequitur. You dont need to abort a child to save the mother.

2 years, 6 months ago
neveralone
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as seen in other debates it comes down to when u believe the child has a soul or is self conscious. until then I would rather save life's than kill them.

2 years, 6 months ago

There are of of things people need to think of, like the health of the mother, health of the baby, and etc. I swing more conservative, but Abortion gets me a lot.

2 years, 6 months ago
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