The debate "African Americans should receive reparations" was started by
August 5, 2015, 1:22 pm.
By the way, benrpollak is disagreeing with this statement.
15 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 32 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
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They are already being separated by the stereotypes and stigmas they face. By assisting with education, some of those problems could be reduced over time. There will always be people with low opinions of other races, but that doesn't mean that the best solution is to cover our eyes and ears and pretend we don't see them being mistreated.
For the record, the reason I use education as an example is because that is a form of reparations that could be effective. I do not agree with simply sending a sum of money by cheque and considering it sufficient because, as other have said, that would not solve any of the problems they face.
Reparations will tip public opinion against African Americans. Whether it's people disagreeing with this statement on this app, or elsewhere, other races will likely find a way to call out blacks on getting handouts. If you do some research you can find how all the education, housing, etc. problems with African Americans are because of institutional racism and implicit racial bias. Separating African Americans further from whites will cause these two things.
I really don't think reparations is the solution. Handing money to people who are disadvantaged often does not help their situation. If you hand money to a drug addict to get help, they will probobly use it to buy drugs. And no I do not mean black people are drug addicts. It is an example. People often don't see how to improve their lives. They take short term happiness over long term benefits. Investing more into schools and health care in impoverished areas would benefit them far more.
So, in that case we should give all people of Jewish and Irish decent reparations too? Slavery was so many years ago, why the hell would it be okay to give people who didn't suffer any money? Reparations won't do anything for the culture other than offer a free handout.
Could you expand in how reparations increase racism? I can see there being resentment that some receive education through reparation and others do not, but there already exists a feeling that black people are lazy and criminals. Wouldn't it be worthwhile to deal with the new resentment rather than continue with the old ones methods that, as recent history has shown, are failing? An increase in GDP could go a long way to convince those willing to listen to reason that reparations are worthwhile, and those unwilling to listen would be racist regardless.
If the word was "ought," I believe this is an easy agree. Morally the US federal govt has committed a wrong (slavery, Jim crow laws, segregation, racially based housing policies, etc.) and reparations is the way or the beginning of a way to make amends. However, because it is whether or not we "should" you have to argue about different solvencies. If money was put into education, there would be a huge increase in GDP and it would break the cycle of African American extreme poverty. On the other hand, reparations would increase racism which would further isolate African Americans. Because reparations cause racism, and racism is the root cause of everything they have gone through... we should not give reparations.
Black people have a significantly higher chance of being born into poverty. That has held true since slavery was abolished. They started at a disadvantage due to lack of property, wealth and education, and that has persisted.
At no point have I said "All black people should get free money" because that would be a terrible way to go about reparations.
People receive money for being unemployed now. It's called welfare. Any program with an intent to get people off welfare, whether called reparations or not, will have my support. Investing in education for young people who otherwise could not afford it is cheaper in the long run than feeding them off welfare or food stamps forevermore.
Sure Dave. My point of view is that #1: Not all blacks are in poverty, so giving all of them money would just encourage unemployment, because they already have money. #2. If you still recieve money for being unemployed, why work? Everyone will look at this as an excuse to just stay home. That's no good for society, is it? #3. Why just give blacks money? There's whites and other races who are in poverty.
To better understand where you are coming from, could you tell me a bit about yourself? If you don't feel comfortable discussing your life in understand.
Rather than simply dismissing your argument, let's discuss your perspective.
If a family lives on welfare and is unemployable due to lack of skills and education, they will be unable to improve their situation. How do you expect to break that cycle?
Funding the education of their children enables them to get educations, acquire skills, and get jobs that allow them to escape poverty. In this way their lives are improved and, as they are not trapped in poverty or on welfare, they contribute to society instead of being a drain. A short term investment repairs a long term problem. Thus by funding education, it is saving everyone else from permanently paying for welfare.
This is one example of reparations done right. I don't agree with simply throwing money at problems, but if there is a long term plan, why would you object to lower taxes in the long run?
Yes it is. We work for money while they get it free? That sounds like laziness to me.
If reparations can help people to become educated and thus help them help themselves, that is not paying them for being lazy.
That is ridiculous. They get free crap by being lazy?
The promise of 40 acres and a mule should have been kept. But that was a promise made to slaves in the 1860s because they had been disenfranchised by slavery, not the African Americans that are alive today who aren't slaves. If I tried to uphold every broken promise given to my ancestors, I would have a lot of work to do. Who's going to fund it anyway? I'm white and broke as hell, I don't think my tax money should be funnelled to someone else simply because he or she is black. That's ridiculous.
I think that African Americans should receive reparations because they were promised reparations and because ifnit had been anyone else (I.e. Jews or Hispanics) they would receive reparations but African Americans did not. where is the justice in that?