The debate "All Muslim immigrats should be put through a 9/11 simulator" was started by
June 22, 2015, 5:24 am.
27 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 116 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
Bxat9 posted 2 arguments to the agreers part.
I_Voyager posted 3 arguments, PsychDave posted 4 arguments, toughgamerjerry posted 2 arguments, DerpedLocke posted 1 argument, ari_pooya posted 1 argument, MrLibertarian posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
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if you are not muslim I suggest you stop hating on muslims. I havent heard a debate on any other religion as much as Islam. 9/11 happened. but how can we forgive other events that have happened and not the ones that includes muslims?
I hate to give brief explanations, but SOMEBODY'S either racist or needs to learn that there are moderate Muslims out there that wouldn't hurt a fly (maybe?).
Not sure how that got altered but the sentence should have read "While yes the Bible does say that we should not permanently alter ourselves..."
I'm not sure where your got the idea that the KKK tattoo 666on themselves, because that is not accurate (which is why I suggested you do some more research into the subject before posting responses). While yes, the Big blind does say we should not permanently alter ourselves, many Christians have tattoos, so that is not a good metric to differentiate by.
The rest of your arguments are rather shortsighted since the same logic can, and should be applied to Muslims. ISIS does not speak for all Muslims, and is actually killing more Muslims that anyone else. They are an extremist group that frequently breaks the laws of Islam. They claim to speak for Islam, therefore people say that is what Islam stands for. I live in a predominantly Muslim neighborhood and have spoken to many of my neighbors and none of them have ever expressed anything resembling the message of ISIS. A local Muslim private school teaches the children that there are bad people out there claiming to be Muslim, do they need to be even better people to show everyone what real Muslims are like.
I am sure the leader of the KKK has read the Bible, as have any of their supporters. They frequently quote the Bible to support their message.
Finally, I did not say that I believe the KKK speaks for Christianity. I said if all Muslims should face consequences for the actions of a small, extremist minority, the same should be true of Christians. The KKK does represent one extremist faction of Christianity, and no amount of you distancing yourself from them will change that. They believe in Christ, they read the Bible, and they profess their belief in God. They are as representative of the average Christian as ISIS or Bokka Harem is of the average Muslim.
@PsychDave, my stating that the KKK was Muslim was based on a website that I had found which after reading about the author it is only his opinion, so the KKK may not be Muslim, but they are also not Christian. The KKK has all of their followers put a tattoo on their skin of 666. There are two things against Christianity in this alone. First off, the Bible says that we should not permanently change how we look, makeup and jewelry are exceptions because they are not permanent, but tattoos are permanent. You are getting ink injected into your skin and the only way it will come off is if you burn it I believe. And the number 666 is the number that represents the devil, if the leader of the KKK was really a Christian, he would want to stay away from anything that represents Satan.
The KKK may say that they represent Christianity, but I have yet to meet any Christians who support it. How can they represent a religion when the people of that religion don't support it? There is not one person or organization that represents Christianity, every true Christian represents Christianity. If you can see a Christian acting Christ - like then they represent Christianity.
How can the KKK represent Christianity when they haven't even read it? If the leader of the KKK has really read the Bible then he would know that it is not time yet.
I see no way that the KKK could represent Christianity and you have not given any reason either. All what you have said is that they are a Christian organization and claim to represent Christianity, but I have not seen any reason other than they said so.
Cause and effect. Deal with it.
@Jerry... You're basically right. By Psychdave's analogy is good. It only works if the statement made here is correct. After all, the terrorists claim to represent Islam but break the Quranic law frequently. Because their movement - like the KKK - are political movements which are justified by misusing the religion.
I don't think he's actually being serious so you probably don't have to make a big deal out of it
You should look into the KKK a bit more. They are a Christian organization and claim to speak for Christianity. They do not believe on Mohammed, therefore by definition they are not Muslim.
Psychdave, the KKK is NOT a Christian organization it is a Muslim organization. The man who claims to be "Christ" is nor a Christian or Christ reincarnated because if you read the Bible on what it says on the things that will happen before Christ comes back, there are still things that need to happen first. They can claim to be Christian all they want but they are not Christians whatsoever.
As for the actual debate, I don't think that all Muslims should go through a 9/11 simulator because that is blaming all Muslims for something that a small group did and made their own decision to do so.
If that is the case, all Christians should go through racial sensitivity training because the KKK is pretty racist.
If I spent all my time playing video games I'd be stupid too, Aaron.
I GOT ONE THING TO SAY AND ONE THING ONLY!!!...........f*** Muslims