America needs education reform.

February 15, 2017, 8:28 pm

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The debate "America needs education reform." was started by CoreyO on February 15, 2017, 8:28 pm. 20 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 1 person is on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

Neo_Nazi posted 1 argument, CoreyO posted 6 arguments, Nemiroff posted 4 arguments, Christian posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
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CoreyO, neveralone, Neo_Nazi, Christian, historybuff, Blue_ray, Ematio, UnderdogMike, human, A_communist94 and 10 visitors agree.
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for the same reason we don't teach Greek mythology in science class. evolution has undeniable evidence, creationism does not.

creationism can be taught, but in the right context. in a religion class it is fine. in a science class it most certainly is not.

2 years, 4 months ago

People teach evolution in schools.
Why not teach creation and evolution and let the students decide what they want to believe.

2 years, 4 months ago

not only is it wrong, but it's counter productive. time has shown that empowering the base, the largest part of th population, increases the wealth of the nation.

2 years, 4 months ago
Nemiroff
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if your going to provide some sort of minimum base of support that promotes sustainable work opportunities then we totally agree.

that stereotypical view of the lower class however is similar to that used in feudalism to justify the misery of the peasants. it's a view that is far to common.

2 years, 4 months ago
CoreyO
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There is a lot more that goes into this that I haven't even began to get into. For instance we're working growing a trend in backyard gardening. This, on an individual and communal level, will not only save money but bring up health as well.

And there will always be poor people. My intention is to restore a strong middle class again.

And yes were going to educate the poor how to not be poor and give help where help is needed.

I've been bouncing an idea around for net-zero tiny homes as transitional spaces for homeless to get back on they're feet.

Yes I know what it's like to be poor. No, it's not going to be easy.

I'm not naive, I just haven given the full details on here.

I'm mainly here to see the polls.

2 years, 4 months ago

I remember a scene from the show "everyone loves chris".

didn't actually watch the show or the whole episode, but I came in to the scene when the father took a crack at the bills and tried to pay off an entire bill to avoid fees (or interest) when the wife came in and yelled at him cause he didn't know what he was doing.

"if you pay the full payment, how will we buy food this week"

think about that for a second. in order to eat they have to pay extra fees that a wealthier person wouldn't have to. and let me guess, your going to say "they should just spend less" unless that's a medical bill. or a schooling bill for their kid. or a repair bill they couldn't afford but without which their car won't run, they can't get to work, and then they can't pay anything at all.

being poor is hard, and aside from welfare scammed (who should be prosecuted strongly) they are hard workers who are indispensable to our economy.

2 years, 4 months ago
Nemiroff
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teach the poor to not be poor is not a solution. you need the how before it can be a solution. all you did was identify a problem.

but do you think it's possible for everyone to not be poor? if you give everyone a billion dollars, don't you think all the prices will just go up and no matter how much money everyone has, the poorest amongst them will always be the poor.

do you even understand how poverty works? it's a trap. being poor is expensive as hell. every decision is a tradeoff off loses and while those who aren't poor can swallow a mistake (a car accident, a ticket, a lost pair of keys), 1 slip if your poor can put you on the street... and that will also cost you as you can no longer carry around all your stuff you bought and have to start all over.

no bulk buying. no time after work to cook a cheap and healthy meal. both people have to work so someone has to figure out child care, which is also expensive.

and leave them to their demise.... think past your nose. what will be the long term effects of the decay of a massive portion of our population on our economy?

let me guess. you think the poor are poor because they are lazy right? cause we all had the same start in life and they just squandered it somehow? or was the deck stacked against them to begin with?

2 years, 4 months ago
CoreyO
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It's seems the govt.. Is performing it's roles very well.

I see other solutions.

Like teach the poor to not be poor or leave them to they're own demise.

2 years, 4 months ago

my objection is that by its very nature, leaving it to communities to do these things breeds inequality and division.

if you live near rich people, programs will be well funded. if you live in a poor area they will be very poorly funded. this perpetuates a cycle of poverty. the rich receive great programs the poor receive none. part of the role of government is to ensure that even the poor receive a good education and services.

2 years, 4 months ago
CoreyO
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The education reform I was promoting has nothing to do with the size of govt.. And everything to do with the quality of teachers and the curriculums taught.

2 years, 4 months ago
CoreyO
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The govt.. Has time and time again shown to be inadequate compared to community ran or privately ran. My biggest issue is taxes and govt. Debt along with people's dependence on govt.

I'd like to help give people independence while keeping money in they're pockets and taxes of our backs. And lowering our national debt.

2 years, 4 months ago

when people argue that there needs to be less government, it's usually because they believe weird and/or terrible things and want to be able to follow through on them.

why do you believe government should have less of a role in education?

2 years, 4 months ago
CoreyO
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It's less about schools and more community programs by the community. Not the govt.

2 years, 4 months ago
CoreyO
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Education is where debate and free thinking should be promoted if gays and lesbian are discussed it should be with statistics, facts, rationale and logic.

2 years, 4 months ago

Education should have a discipline. Children who keep talking about gays and lesbians should be prohibited from acquiring education. They are useless people. Children who are great in sports, academic or any other recognised fields are actual students who deserve help from the country.

2 years, 4 months ago

depends on how. I'm not sure if I'll support any of the changes Betsy devas will be offering to bankrupt public schools.

2 years, 4 months ago
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