America should give some of the money they invest in their weapons to the homeless

December 7, 2015, 5:17 pm

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The debate "America should give some of the money they invest in their weapons to the homeless" was started by iSmuggleJews on December 7, 2015, 5:17 pm. 43 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 13 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

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only in a few states they have laws against it. only against large scale rainwater too, you in your backyard can dig a whole and collect rainwater legally.
so no it is not illegal to collect rainwater in america, in Utah, yes they have some laws, but these are state laws.

3 years, 8 months ago
iSmuggleJews
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it is illegal to collect rainwater in america, look it up.

3 years, 8 months ago

what?

3 years, 8 months ago
iSmuggleJews
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cus murica sux. its illegal to even collect some rain water.

3 years, 8 months ago

right as Dr. Carson says "look to a place that works and follow them"
the system works well in Norway, so why not in the us?

3 years, 8 months ago

theres a system in norway that helps people who cant get jobs, or cant work.
people who do work pay taxes so that the state can help the people who cant get a job.

so they would Give them some small jobs from time to time, and if they get a full time job the state will lend them a little car if the way to the job is long.

not to mention that they get their own Apartment.
but they will be in debt for a very long time, but as long as you work you will be able to pay it off.

i think america should adopt this system, and many other countries.

3 years, 8 months ago

also both Russia and China likely have detailed plans for active service American aircraft. so trying to avoid them getting them is kind of moot.

3 years, 8 months ago

America spends 581 billion per year on its military. if it cut its spending by half it would be spending only slightly less than Russia and China combined. America's military spending is absolutely out of control. they spend more than the next 7 top spenders combined, several of whom are NATO members and American allies. the idea that they have to spend that much money to be safe is rediculous.

3 years, 8 months ago

I do like teaching the homeless how to work is great and will help the usa, and military funds could go to it and be successfull, but there must be another program with large funds that is less needed then the military.

3 years, 8 months ago
PsychDave
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Even if they weren't required to pay it back directly, the added income tax revenue could pay for the program fairly quickly.

3 years, 8 months ago

that makes more sence, take some of the air force budget and give it to the homeless job training progams. then the homeless when they get a job can pay the goverment back

3 years, 8 months ago

The US has lots of allies and military equipment is sold between nations all the time. Canada might buy one, or one if the other NATO nations. Alternatively, rather than actually selling one, just repurpose the money from next year's budget that would go to purchasing new hardware that will be mothballed indefinitely. That way rather than selling an existing plane at a loss (since anytime you sell something used you lose some value) the government gets the best bang for their buck.

3 years, 8 months ago

that's much better, teach people how to work, and they get jobs, get money, get their own house and pay the us back.

this way it's more like a loan for the working, the metally Ill get help, and the lazy people get nothing.

but how do you sell a military jet. who will buy it? you don't want russia or China getting their hands on one off our jets, so they can look for weaknesses, and then come bomb us and make us all homeless.

3 years, 8 months ago
PsychDave
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I'm fairly sure that was an example of the difference in spending required to make a difference. One less jet won't make a sizable difference to the air force, but that same contribution would change the lives of many, many people.

How about instead of giving them homes the money goes to temporary housing and training so that they can get productive jobs? The government could analyze the job market and judge which professions are either the most urgently needed or which will be in a few years with retirements and offer training to fill these gaps. That way those in need get help and society at large is better off for it. Alternatively it could go to help the people who are homeless and unemployed due to mental illness since they are not lazy, they are ill.

3 years, 8 months ago

how is a homeless person with no money that much worse then a person with a bad home and no money? the person will need all those bills, the us will sell more of its fighter jets. and soon we are a weak military force.

by the way, who will buy a fighter jet?

3 years, 8 months ago
iSmuggleJews
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its only one fighter jet they have to sell.

3 years, 8 months ago

They will have a home, it will be a bad one, but they will still have no money.

3 years, 8 months ago

buy them the unworking lazy free loading homeless will have better homes then the average worker.

I know that not all homeless people are like that, but giving people free homes is not the answer. and what about food, water, electricity, furnature and other bills? the us going to sell its whole air force? what happens them? america becomes an easy target.

3 years, 8 months ago

Fun fact: it actually costs the US less if they were to help homeless people than if they are left homeless. The reason they are still homeless is because many fundamentalists think they are lazy and they just need to work harder. Really, they have had misfortune, whether it be schizophrenia that they can't afford to treat, PTSD, etc.

3 years, 8 months ago
iSmuggleJews
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damn you sound like a hillbilly murican right now. do you have any idea how much money murica spends on weapons each year?(610 bn in 2014-2015) dit you know that if they were to sell one F-35 (fighter jet) they could give every homeless person in america a 600.000 dollar home?

3 years, 8 months ago

so another country can bomb us and make us all homeless? nice plan.

3 years, 8 months ago
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