The debate "An important step in becoming a good debater is learning the logical fallacies and how to use them" was started by
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Fair enough. I see how they can be useful, but I still think it's better to know how to counter them than using them. I must agree with what you all have said. I actually was in doubt about it, but now I understand their use in a debate. Thanks for making it clear ;)
When discussing most things, you are absolutely right. The problem you get into is when discussing emotionally driven topics (like religion or abortion) and technically advanced topics (like evolution or the Big Bang).
In the case of emotional debates, logic has trouble. People are invested in their view and logic, while very important, is often insufficient to stay them. For technical topics, the logic that would explain it is so advanced as to make it impossible to enter into the debate. People have devoted their entire academic career to understanding the universe and evolution, and to expect to be able to sum it up into a 2 min argument I'd impossible.
The other reason to learn them, even if you never use them, is to know how to counter them. If you don't understand the problems with your opponents argument, you cannot rebut it effectively.
But you shouldn't think about winning a debate with logic tricks. You'd better defend your point with real arguments, don't you think? By hiding behind fallacies you can defend every stupid idea. You can say for example that unicorns exist and noone will be able to prove you're wrong.
Debates aren't always about truth, they are sometimes (like with a audience.) about winning. Fallacies are something we have to be careful about though. Use them carefully so you don't get pointed out and it could give you the edge. And point them out to make the opponent look wrong and you'll most likely win the debate.
But wait a minute aren't fallacies to be avoided? Why should we learn how to use them? I agree we must know how to recognize them in a speech, but our arguments must be based on our reflections and thoughts and not on common fallacies :/
An obvious statement stated.