The debate "Apple is right to refuse to allow the FBI a backdoor into their software" was started by
February 18, 2016, 11:34 am.
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historybuff posted 3 arguments, RyanWakefield posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
historybuff, RyanWakefield, Freyja, MinuteMan101, MrShine, KrazeTheCricket, carlos1ja, Austin7779, SwaggerPoptart and 14 visitors agree.
barman, mohasan, Yanksxx21 disagree.
But if the FBI wanted information, they shouldn't get the backdoor, the company should retrieve the information and hand it off, without providing the FBI how they got it. It's harder to say how privacy could be kept then, but we probably already believe that they already have the backdoor. They don't need to make one..
Apple is in the right for refusing, they could also have chosen to agree on the other hand. They have that right because people signed up for a service, and just as you can be searched in a Wal Mart for a less than reasonable search, if you did agree in that contract that you didn't read that the information could be released, too bad! Should have picked a cricket or Nexus!
As a personal opinion on where the privacy line is drawn, it is limited as far as who we contacted, not what was said, sarcasm is harder to read over text (example:Next time we hang out bring the loud and 8 ball of coke) and cause problems. Besides, the guy is dead, it's hard to say he's got rights besides keeping organs in his corpse.
common sence ain't so common!
you Canadians really don't know about the FBI. I'm not in the FBI, but I know someone who is in it, and I've seen Mission Impossible and other movies.
So you don't get to be top level without being trusted, smart, and a really good guy. it's not like becoming pres. and top level guys, everything they do is watched. Now seriously do you really think a top level FBI guy will steal a phone, and hack into the FBI, and apple to look at random stuff?
you assume it will be top level. you have no proof of that. you assume no one at the top level would abuse their power. you have no proof of that. you assume the FBI wouldn't agree to using it illegally or immorally. that's just foolish.
Historybuff you clearly know very little about the FBI, which I understand because your Canadian.
the FBI has certain levels of security. the iPhone hacking is going to be a top level with only a few people having access to it, and only after getting the phone and a warrant. it's not like anyone in the FBI can get to a top level security computer.
still a hacker can hack the code, then steal phones.
Fair enough, but if Apple maintained sole possession of the ability to unlock them, the FBI would have to get a warrant forcing them to do it in each instance they wanted it done. Also, it isn't a case where they could snoop through whoever they wanted, they have to physically have the phone.
or unless they had access to it. which chances are lots of people would. just because they can't legally do something doesn't mean they won't. agencies such as the FBI, NSA, CSIS (the Canadian FBI/CIA) regularly do spy on people in ways that are illegal or just extremely morally grey. trusting a government agency with a tool to unlock your phone on a whim is unwise.
you need a warrant. a random FBI guy couldn't just look it up, unless he is a hacker.
imagine a paedophile in the FBI having access to anybody's private information
if there was a way to backdoor a phone, and it would only be used in case of a warrant, that would be fine. it would be like a house or something with a warrant.
the problem is, with all electronic things, a hacker could use the backdoor to streak things, or look up classified info from Hilary Clinton's phone.
I agree that the measures the FBI are asking for overreach, but there should be a way to recover information from iPhones. Even if it was a method that required Apple to participate, thus making them need a warrant for each device, there should be a way to search information on a phone if there is sufficient cause.
I understand that the information is private, but so is your home, and that is subject to search with a warrant. With sufficient cause they can search your computer, your car etc, so what makes phones exempt? Child pornography, terrorist plans or any other information could be transported using iPhones since at present there is no way to recover it.
Privacy is important, and installing a backdooor into every iPhone is an absurd over reaction, but there should be some method of recovering a password to a phone.
if it were possible to guarantee that it could only be used in this one case it would be a different story. but what they are asking for would allow them to access any iPhone they want. it is a huge security problem. since the government is supposed to want to increase security, not undermine it, it seems like a no brainier.