Are good and evil imposed by society

December 3, 2019, 3:38 pm

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if something brings me closer to the "good life" but another person brings it to suffering, is that good or bad?

8 months ago

I'd say the answer to this question is a yes and no in many ways. I'll explain.

I think good and bad are expressions of preference not universal absolute truth claims. We're all in search of living "the good life" and want to avoid suffering (generally speaking; there are of course masocist and sadomasocist outliers). The "good life" is the presence of pleasure, joy, love, etc... all the things we actively seek out to enrich our lives. The "Bad" is simply states of being that we tend to avoid (pain, persecution, etc...).

Morality itself is then simply a contract between individuals of a given society that put in place rules that govern how we achieve the "good life" and how to avoid the "bad". So there isn't a universal objective truth that says "killing is wrong". Rather we decide that we prefer a society where random killings aren't permitted and so we write laws that say "killing is wrong in all but some circumstances" and that killing another person without a justification that would allow it is "murder". So when we say "killing is wrong" we actually mean "murder is wrong" (murder is defined as the unlawful killing of another person).

We use murder, not killing, as the defining word for a wrongful act because we acknowledge the fact that there are gray areas, even in cases of taking someone else's life, that must be accounted for.

We also have biological revulsions to certain acts like inbreeding that contribute to our legal and moral codes.

With all this in mind, I think morality is an expression of universal preference for the "good life" (barring outliers), social contracts, and biological revulsions/affinities. The laws and contracts we make are simply our attempts at getting as close as possible to the "good life".

8 months, 1 week ago
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