Atheism as the 'religion' of 'irreligion' should be separated from the state & Christianity is 1

July 3, 2019, 9:18 pm

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The debate "Atheism as the 'religion' of 'irreligion' should be separated from the state & Christianity is 1" was started by Repent_4_The_End_Is_Near on July 3, 2019, 9:18 pm. 1 person is on the agree side of this discussion, while 10 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

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Allirix
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Monotheism is the belief in a God. Christianity is a system of beliefs and doctrine around monotheism. Islam is another system of beliefs and doctrine around monotheism.

Polytheism is the belief in multiple gods. Ancient Greek and Roman theology were systems of beliefs and doctrine around Polytheism.

Atheism is the disbelief in a God. There is no equivalent system of beliefs and doctrine around atheism. This is because it's a simple "no" to thiesm. There's no system of beliefs around the non-existence of fairies, or any other a- belief. A "no" to your God has nothing to do with someone's opinion on abortion.

3 months, 2 weeks ago
Nemiroff
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it cannot be a belief of unbelief, that is a contradiction. if they share a lack of belief, that still says nothing of what they as a group do believe in. do they believe in science? karma? fate? nihilism? etc.

this "group" has nothing of substance in common!

this reminds me of the old story of a captain telling his crew about the hunt for some mythical creature. they ask him to describe what they are looking for, and he gives them a list of known info. it is not a duck, it is not a fish. it cannot swim, it cannot fly. it has no scales, it has no nose. he lists many qualities of what this beast is not, and in the end of the explanation, the crew still has no idea what it is they are actually looking for. negative characteristics define nothing, certainly not a group of people.

if you go to a "not poker" club, you certainly know the people wont be playing poker, not you have no idea what activities they actually have in common.

3 months, 2 weeks ago
JDAWG9693
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Atheism is NOT a religion. And, even if it were (which it is NOT), then it would just be one more to separate. The government is secular, not atheistic. There is a difference.

And, a law can be influenced by or started as a religious concept, but it cannot be a law because of a religious reason. We have the law of not killing not because whatever god said not to, we have it because of the secular reason: if we could kill whenever, chaos would ensue and society would progress very little, if at all. All laws must be created with secular reasons.

3 months, 2 weeks ago

The problem is that, that is not what's happening. We live in a society where there is such a thing as "Seperation of Church & State".This, I assume, is meant to prevent conflict between religious views, while governing a democracy but things like Abortion, Murder laws & so on, have caused commotion in the religious community amongst the majority. If Atheistic, Pro-choice laws are imposed on democracy, it causes commotion even though everyone is allowed to practice their own religious beliefs

3 months, 2 weeks ago

Fine, But it can be considered a belief of 'unbelief' & therefore making it, a religion of irreligion.

3 months, 2 weeks ago

a theism doesn't have a single belief structure. therefore it is not a religion.

3 months, 2 weeks ago

The only way to separate non-religion from a state is to introduce a religion. Secularism is about protecting all religions equally, something that doesn't happen in a theocracy

3 months, 2 weeks ago
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