The debate "Being Liberal is not very Liberal" was started by
March 3, 2017, 6:04 pm.
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I apologize Nemiroff :) I agree with you on that. In a way we need both conservatives and progessives. But yes I never understood why Liberals are called Liberals.
the statement wasn't in response to you, or the thread title. it was in response to bigot Mike's statement"
"leftists are bigots. liberals are not."
the idiot doesn't even get that left IS AN ENTIRE HALF OF A SPECTRUM including moderates and extremes... and the broader term of "the left" includes all liberals.
he proclaimed that without exception, half of the political spectrum is bigoted. that is a bigoted statement.
I hope that clarifies for you @ink.
I made my reply to the thread in general in a seperate post.
what statement do you think I was responding to?
If you were to make a statement saying being conservative is not very conservative. I see nothing bigoted about that statement. Just something I should try to understand. What do you mean by that? Why is that? and I will depending on my side oppose it and explain why. Not **** you. Not you're just a piece of ****. I have nothing against liberals.
but I agree with 1 aspect. I don't understand why liberals are called liberals? libertarians are liberals. freedom without thought.
the left, being opposite of "conservatives" should be labeled "progressives".
both mainstream party in this country fight for liberties, but the main difference is one wants to move forward with improvements (progressives) while others want to ensure stability (conservatives). the word liberal is stupid, although not in the way antiliberal bigot Mike claimed.
Liberals are not very liberal. Meaning a lot of the things they stand for have nothing to do with liberty but equality. Like I learmed you can't gain equality if you put it first then liberty second. I'm not saying this statement to offend I am just stating from the obvious beliefs I know a lot of liberals hold. Thats what I see. Hatred on the other hand is subjective. It shows that you're clearly offended in my eyes. You feel the need to curse and call names but we won't go anywhere with this if thats how you handle anything that offends you.
and saying the same thing about liberals is different how?
some liberals are bigoted. but according to your previous post, so are you.
saying that conservatives hate anyone is a bigoted statement.
when you start a debate generalizing large segments of the population, how do you think you are going to have a serious debate?
your topic was liberals aren't liberals. my counter was conservatives hate poor people. both are rediculous oversimplifications that make it difficult to actually debate anything.
leftists are bigots. liberals are not.
if you are intolerant of the views and beliefs of conservatives, you are a bigot, and a leftist. not a liberal.
I mean this is an example of the anger a lot of you have. It's quite sad now that I can't even have a proper debate without being name called. To me it shows lack of acceptance. Isn't that what you stand for. Being acceptance. Having no hatred. Discrimination happens but what happened to the respect we all had for each other once. We have our opinioms but were humans at the end of the day. I just hope this belief a lot of liberals have won't turn into censorship of everyone elses beliefs. Will allow freedom before allowing equality. But a lot of liberals seem to believe we humans are all at an equal level. We're not and will never be but of course we can allow the basic equality thats fair for any human being. I don't believe in holding an individuals hand through they road they chose to make. Most successful ppl in this world earned there place and a lot of individuals didn't. We're worrying about lack of good choices and intelligence rather than real world issues
and conservative didn't used to mean religious zealot, lie loving, poor hating ******. but things change.
Makes no sense to name something thats not true
The term liberal was stolen by the left. It used to describe the opposite of what they support