Believing in something without an evidence is immoral because of epistemic responsibility

anonymous
June 16, 2019, 4:14 pm

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The debate "Believing in something without an evidence is immoral because of epistemic responsibility" was started by an anonymous person on June 16, 2019, 4:14 pm. 13 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 14 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

maksonmakson posted 6 arguments to the agreers part.
Allirix posted 1 argument, JDAWG9693 posted 4 arguments to the disagreers part.

Nemiroff, MADHURA, shivani, swara, sakshi and 8 visitors agree.
JDAWG9693, Allirix, Bratzela, hollieg, Threelip, MrStealyogrill and 8 visitors disagree.

JDAWG9693
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The thought determines it, sure. But, it does not become moral or immoral until I act on it. If it remains only a thought, it is not moral or immoral.

4 weeks, 1 day ago
maksonmakson
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I agree that the action would be moral, but the thought determines it. And I see your point, maybe you're right.

4 weeks, 1 day ago
JDAWG9693
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But, the thought would not be the moral action, the act would. You are advocating for moral thought crime, which I would argue is an immoral concept

4 weeks, 1 day ago
maksonmakson
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you may not kill him, but you're likely to do other things, like not saying hello (this is a stupid example), and make him feel bad

4 weeks, 1 day ago
JDAWG9693
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Thoughts may affect our actions, but they are not our actions. If I believe that I want to legitimately kill my neighbor but don't do it, I have don't nothing wrong. Furthermore, no immoral action will exist until I do act.

4 weeks, 1 day ago
maksonmakson
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Well your thoughts influence actions.
And one same action could be both moral or immoral, depending of a reason why someone did something, and the reason is a thought. If I just walk, that's nothing immoral. But if I, while I'm walking, accidentally kill a bug, for an example, that's still moral because I didn't know that I'll kill a bug. And if I walk and intentionally kill a bug, well that's immoral. So actions do indeed need to be taken, but we don't judge the action, we judge the reason and the awareness.

I'll give you another example. If you work as a cashier, and you always give back the correct change (same action), that could be moral and that could be immoral, depending of why do you do that. If you do that because you fear your reputation, that's immoral, but if you're doing that because you want to be fair, that's moral. Credits to Immanuel Kant haha

So having unfounded beliefs could result in unfounded, and therefore immoral actions.

1 month ago
JDAWG9693
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I don't think that thoughts can be immoral, only actions. My thought may be the justification of my actions, but only the actions hold moral value

1 month ago
maksonmakson
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Blind faith won't make society any better.

1 month ago
maksonmakson
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No, I didn't say it's immoral to not know something for sure, but to believe in something without any evidence. Take the big bang as an example. We are not sure if it really happened, but there is some evidence that suggests that it did. And take believing in a horoscope as another example. There's no single piece of evidence that proves horoscope, so it's immoral to believe in horoscope, although we are not sure if horoscope is real.

1 month ago

Trust is important for society to function. Doubting everything is important, but you don't have to not believe.

1 month ago
JDAWG9693
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Well, we don't know anything for sure, other than our consciousness exists in some form. So, science would be immoral by your claim

1 month ago

Unfounded beliefs result in unfounded actions and if you're aware of that, that's immoral, because it directs your behavior towards something based on an assumption that can easily be not true.

1 month ago
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