Bill Gates was the most successful men in history

October 25, 2015, 7:23 pm

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if you are interested in history you should look at the Mongol empire. it is interesting. it was larger, richer, and more powerful than the Roman empire but most Westerners know very little about it.

4 years, 1 month ago

ok, you win, if your right, I don't know much about khan

4 years, 1 month ago

Genghis Khan conquered more. he set up a system that lasted (Caesar didn't). he overcame more adversity. he defeated more enemies on 2 continents. I don't see how Caesar was more successful by any measure.

4 years, 1 month ago

yes, it definitely is not gates, Ceasar I think is.

4 years, 1 month ago

I'm not saying anyone is the most successful person in history. it certainly isn't bill gates. I would argue it isn't Caesar either.

4 years, 1 month ago

yes, but neither is bill gates, or anyone today.

4 years, 1 month ago

not in the same league as creating the largest contiguous empire the world has ever known.

4 years, 1 month ago

They are rich, have a tv show, are famous. they have a different kind of success. their success is not the kind that helps anyone, but they are, in a way, very successful.

4 years, 1 month ago

at the time he was famous. but he is Asian and isn't Christian. so Europeans gloss over it in their histories. it's not surprising less people would have heard of him. also, the kardashians are more famous than both. I wouldn't say they are more successful.

4 years, 1 month ago

I believe part of being successful is getting super famous. Ceasar certainly did this.

4 years, 1 month ago

success is not a popularity contest. Julius Caesar is more famous. but that's because there are plays and stories about him in our culture. he was a European. he was from the empire which is the forerunner of European empires. of course he is better known. that doesn't mean he is less successful

4 years, 1 month ago

go to a random person on the street say have you herd of ... ask Ceasar and khan.
I bet the number of people who heard of Ceasar is like 10x the number of people who heard of khan. in my experience successfull people are more well known.

4 years, 1 month ago

another great example is Genghis Khan. he went from an orphan all alone to the ruler of the largest contiguous empire in human history. he united the disparate steppe peoples into a single nation which was the most powerful on the planet. he was the single greatest threat to Christian Europe. he was extremely successful. he conquered hundreds of times the amount of land Caesar did and left a lasting empire in his wake.

4 years, 1 month ago

he did not start the Roman empire. that is a fact. he was dictator for life. he did not create the empire. he did not create the position of emperor. Augustus did that. he did not organize the empire. Augustus did that. Caesar is a successful dictator. but Sulla accomplished the same thing. Caesar just followed his example. it was Augustus that forged the empire.

4 years, 1 month ago

well I think it is hard to hold power when your DEAD. he started the Roman Empire, that is a fact. the empire was one of the biggest in history, and lasted hundreds of years.

4 years, 1 month ago

it is impossible to say if he was popular. all the histories were written by Caesar himself or by his heir, emperor Augustus. Augustus had him named a god and wrote lots of great things about him to make himself look good (as his heir) while still looking humble. Caesar was undoubtedly a great general. but he was a poor statesman. he didn't create a lasting system of government. he didn't solidify his power. he smashed his enemies but couldn't hold power. Augustus defeated his enemies politically as well as militarily. Augustus set up the basis of Roman government for the next few hundred years.

4 years, 1 month ago

Caesar was loved by 90% of rome. Brutus and others who killed him got chased out of rome, hunted down and killed. Caesar had 100% control of Rome, had he not shown that a monarchy can be successful, Augustus would not have became emperor. the rebublic would have continued. Caesar also conquered more then augustus.

4 years, 1 month ago

caesar was not an emperor. he did not have formalized control of the state. the power he did have did not survive him. everything he did just pissed people off and got him killed. it took Augustus years and another civil war to establish the empire and become the first emperor. he certainly built on what Caesar did, but he accomplished much more. he established a stable (ish) empire. he took power and was thanked and loved for it instead of hated and murdered. Augustus is the first emperor because he was smarter than his uncle was.

4 years, 1 month ago

the legacy of Alexander the great did not last long, Caesar created an empire that lasted hundreds of years. Caesar started the empire, Augustus just kept it going, Ceasars is better because he started one of the greatest empires in history.

4 years, 1 month ago

why Caesar? I'm curious why you think he accomplished more than Alexander the great. Caesar's nephew emperor Augustus accomplished much more in my opinion. there are lots of great men of history, why that one?

4 years, 1 month ago

Ya i guess.

4 years, 1 month ago

in recent history, yes, but in all history, no.
Caesar, Alexander the Great, they were more successful. Caesar was the most successful man in all of history and no one will ever come close.

4 years, 1 month ago

sorry i meant man

4 years, 1 month ago
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