The debate "Brexit will be disastrous for UK" was started by
July 2, 2016, 1:13 am.
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PoliticsAsUsual posted 2 arguments, Daffa8799 posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
bigB posted 3 arguments to the disagreers part.
Daffa8799, The_richman, PoliticsAsUsual and 8 visitors agree.
ototoxic, leftyg1111, bigB and 7 visitors disagree.
the EU is an economic body.
we don't elect the head of our economics agency, nor the head of any agency. they are appointed by people we elect.
who picks Britain's EU representative?
London banking and property values fell 20% last week. The impact of brexit was real. It was disastrous economically. Investors set up uncertainty behavior in britain investments, exports would likely to fall even britain commodities seem cheaper (charged with bills to access common market and tariffs). While EU, Frankfurt and Dublin reap in benefits from their strengthening financial system
But really, EU is undenocratic. European Commission and Parliament gave only 13% amount of people power on deciding new policies. That's the reason of pro brexit vote.
Actually, they've no plan for the brexit and that was disastrous. Cameron resigned his tenure as PM, Farage resigned as UKIP leader, Boris stated to not running for PM. No one take their own responsibility
sorry if you took it personally, but I was referring to an actual pro Brexit politician (farage or the other guy) on TV during an interview disparaging the unanimous concensus of every international economics body that Brexit will have the result it turned out to actually have.
that politician has actual support and mirrors the ideas of many supporters, thus actually represents a significant part of the Brexit movement. thus mocking his statement is very valid.
and no, Britain will now have to pay taxes it didn't have to pay before. all you save is your membership dues, while losing all the benefits.
except that because there is significantly less income from all the lost trade, and less people paying because of all the lost jobs. so there will be considerably less tax income to spend on important government spending.
which in turn will help the economy, because the extra tax dollars will go to important fixtures in the government
"I love how elitist is just a catch phrase for the uneducated in the right."- wow, so someone who paid his or her own way in college and paying for nursing school with no help is an uneducated right wing conservative. I'm impressed with your assumptions.
I said before it was a double edged sword. But the nation of England will not have to pay extra tax in the European Union. That's fact.
it won't be "disastrous" but it will hurt their economy and international standing.
England will still have to abide by regulations if it wants to sell to the EU, and it will have to keep its borders open if it wants to have access to the markets. so that's 2 broken promises.
the fact that the money it sends the EU (half of which is sent right back to the UK) was going to be spent on NHS was an outright lie. they admitted to that the very next day. and any "savings" will be spent on new tariffs and taxes.
I love how elitist is just a catch phrase for the uneducated in the right. it used to mean privileged people who pull strings behind the scenes, but now it refers to anyone with an education trying to give you advice. those damned elites! lol.
you're right it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what is going on. the right played on people's fear and ignorance to push their own agenda. people didn't really understand what leaving the EU would do. no one really has any idea what it will do. now they are looking at the fallout and realizing what a horrible mistake they made so they want another vote.
England is going to pay way more now. they lost their preferential access to the European market. that means their businesses will get undercut by all the countries still in the EU. they are going to lose alot of trade, jobs and money. not to mention they no longer have a seat at the table where all the important European issues are decided. they have put themselves in a corner.
Now England doesn't have to abide by ridiculous rules and regulations, England doesn't have to pay an excess tax anymore. London is the financial hub in Europe and now they don't have to pay a ridiculous tax anymore.
What broken promises again?
I know the "progressives" are freaking out about it because the elitist didn't control the vote and now want to vote again, doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's going on.
I'm not saying your wrong, but could you name names of the people who are going back on promises?
that's like saying that it would be good for Texas to complete control. yeah it's nice to not have to listen to other people. but the bottom line is that this is only going to hurt the UK. and the people who campaigned for brexit are already going back on their promises and they aren't even in power.
I don't know much about Brexit, except for that liberals really hate it for some reason, so I'll be for it. Isn't it good for the UK that they can choose what their country does, instead of having to answer to the EU?
in what way will it help the economy? they are losing preferential access to their largest market. that means they will lose billions in business. several big companies are already planning to move their headquarters out of Britain.
it will likely cause Scotland, Ireland and Gibraltar to have a go at independence. they all voted to remain and are getting forced out by England.
where exactly is the upside for their economy?
it's a double edged sword. The exit from the EU will help the economy overall and over a longer period of time