Burning or defacing and American flag should be an act of terrorism against the US and a crime

July 26, 2015, 8:49 pm

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The debate "Burning or defacing and American flag should be an act of terrorism against the US and a crime" was started by AstroSpace on July 26, 2015, 8:49 pm. By the way, AstroSpace is disagreeing with this statement. 17 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 25 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

AstroSpace posted 7 arguments to the agreers part.
sloanstar1000 posted 2 arguments, Sosocratese posted 1 argument, PsychDave posted 5 arguments, DerpedLocke posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

spellbeechamp, Bodaciouslady16, toughgamerjerry, ferida1237, TransPanTeen, sabrina, desght, Tristanzee, steady_current and 8 visitors agree.
AstroSpace, sloanstar1000, Sosocratese, historybuff, PsychDave, littlelovaticchick, Prit, thisrisingtide, musejay1, DerpedLocke, theQueenofdebate, dgw23, wayneSPEC, xbulletwithbutterflywingsx, AngryBlogger and 10 visitors disagree.

Expressing extreme distaste is not necessarily an act of terrorism. For example, if I went on a Barbie doll burning spree, am I a terrorist? Not necessarily. However, I appreciate patriotism as well.

4 years, 4 months ago

I apologize, I assumed you meant to continue to express your sentiment that my mother should die as a form of natural selection in the original debate you posted it in since I said nothing about that here.

Who denied that money was made on vaccines? Would you like to argue against positions I have taken rather than those you wish I had? It would make rational debate much easier.

I have not simply said wrong, wrong, wrong. I have debunked your various misquotes and inaccurate or false statements as you made them. Referencing them now without providing any evidence of your claims does nothing to further your position.

Reality is all around us, and I choose to accept it rather than credit disproven conspiracy theories. I credit evidence and verifiable proof rather than unsubstantiated (or disproven) claims.

As of now I am going to solely debate over whether burning a flag is terrorism in this debate. If you would like to continue to debate vaccination, feel free, but I will only respond in the appropriate debate. Doing so here only serves to derail this debate.

4 years, 4 months ago

No, would you like to read what you said and see that I actually responded on the right post? ??

4 years, 4 months ago

Would you like to remove that comment so that you can post it to the right debate?

4 years, 4 months ago

Really? Because the Nazis along with other dictators like king Hussein Obama love taking medical choice.

4 years, 4 months ago

The vaccines must be taking effect on you... Any one with a brain can understand that profits are made when vaccines and pills are given out. If you deny this you are in utter denial. You seem to be missing the irony of your statement about your mom, but you think vaccines should mandatory. Vaccines do kill people, Bill gates said so himself, and death and paralysis rates have skyrocketed. You will of course, just say, "Wrong wrong wrong, the government would never do that." Reality is all around you bud.

4 years, 4 months ago

OK, if we are combining debates, here we go.

Vaccines do not kill people. Basic research can show you that but you have demonstrated by misquotes and false statements that you are incapable of telling reputable, peer reviewed studies from propaganda and rhetoric so I won't bother to explain further.

In no way is the desire to keep children from dying or being permanently crippled by preventable diseases linked to an economic theory, communist, Nazi (as you have repeatedly claimed) or otherwise. Economics are not inherently connected to not desiring infants to die, reason and common sense are.

You want to show people how free America is by taking away the freedom of someone who does something you disagree with, and you wish to demonstrate how good they have it by locking them up for destroying their property. Somehow, you seem to miss the irony of that statement.

4 years, 4 months ago

You want to kill people with vaccines and turn this country into commie land. I want to send out a message to all of the ungrateful morons that they've got it pretty damn good in America.

4 years, 4 months ago

You want to arrest and imprison people for destroying their own property, I want to protect children from crippling and lethal diseases over your objections. Do you really feel you have moral superiority to combine these debates or shall we leave them separate?

4 years, 4 months ago

You're the one trying to destroy medical choice, not me.

4 years, 4 months ago

So your argument is that you want the US to be more authoritarian and more like the Middle East when someone does something you find offensive?

4 years, 4 months ago

sloanstar1000, I never said everyone burning the American flag is on welfare. I fond it very ironic that they burn the flag but still rely on the country to keep them free and allowed to do that. Burning that flag is disrespectful to the soldiers that fought and were killed to allow them to burn the flag. If the people who burn the flag hate America so much, they should go to the middle East and burn their flag. They would be imprisoned or killed. They think they're all big and strong, but in reality, they are ignorant disrespectful morons.

4 years, 4 months ago

AstroSpace,

First off, I'm not sure why you assume everyone who burns the American flag must be on welfare.

but I completely disagree that it's destroying liberty and freedom. putting limits on someone's ability to do something is removing liberty and freedom. Like putting someone in handcuffs. So if we made it illegal to burn the flag, that would actually "destroy" liberty.

it's Important to protect the free speech that is offensive, otherwise we don't have free speech.

4 years, 4 months ago

I disagree. Although it is the freedom of speech, the flag should be off limits. You get morons burning the American flag, yet sucking of of the countries welfare. Defacing the flag is destroying liberty and freedom, and should be considered a threat to the US.

4 years, 4 months ago

That's absurd. Terrorism has a very specific legal definition which can't include flag burning. If somehow, you'd be able to change the legal definition of terrorism to include flag burning, you'd likely create a ton of unintended consequences and limits set to our freedom of speech.

4 years, 4 months ago

That's ridiculous, burning cloth is in no way a form of terrorism and the only way it could be a crime is if you burn someone else's flag. Burning your own property shouldn't be a crime.

4 years, 4 months ago
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