The debate "Can we relate God with Science" was started by
May 19, 2019, 10:16 am.
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God is uncreated. If God was created, then He is not God but since He is the uncaused cause He is God and Creator of all things, including the studies of science
I'm so sorry. I didn't read and understand you. it's my fault.
I want there to be a cause for God? That's not my point at all. My only point is you're supporting my point by giving an example of an uncaused causer.
I saw an interesting analogy by briane greene about the relationship with time and speed/gravity. I don't know if this is actual theory or hypothesis, but logically and philosophically I find it brilliant.
imagine a compass. if your moving straight north, you are making 100% progress north, but if you head alittle west, your moving at the same overall speed, but your not going north as much.
now replace north / south with time, and east / west with space. if your standing still, your still obviously moving through time, and at the speed of light, time stops. therefore, just like with the northwest trail, your overall movement doesnt change, but as more of that motion goes through space, less motion happens in time.
gravity bends space, changing distance/motion. so it would also affect the distance traveled along any dimension.
God creat everythng, so we can say god is the cause and there is not the cause of god. You want the cause of god. It's your mistake.
If everything needs a cause why is God exempt? You're not using rational argument to prove your point, you're just begging the question. If God is exempt the seeds of the universe are exempt. We don't understand time and gravity properly. Why is time distorted by both gravity and speed? It's entirely possible time's antecedent factors existed forever before it was created allowing for a materialistic uncaused causer and unmoved mover.
Every thing in the world has a cause, and that cause is God. So God is the cause. Your interpretation is wrong.
If you are very open to other definitions of what "God" is, then yes a god can fit into Science. But I don't think there are any main stream religions where this is possible. Their dogmatic views of what god is are incompatible with Science. Things like a flood that covered the world. All of humanity being descended from 2 people are just obviously not based in reality.
if everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause.
if God does not need a cause, then there can be things that do not need a cause. why not say reality has always existed in some form.
Why the world started? There must be the cause of the world start. This is God. And science will discover this in the future because it is in progress.
you can certainly reconcile God with science. you cannot reconcile religion with science, at least not a literal reading of religion.
There is No God!!