The debate "Cant we all just be friends here on this app" was started by
October 25, 2015, 4:13 pm.
58 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 43 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
PsychDave posted 43 arguments, redstar posted 1 argument, Najam1 posted 42 arguments, Nemiroff posted 2 arguments, blue_rayy posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
Najam1 posted 5 arguments, human posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
stevenchen, PsychDave, Skeetc15, Anas, confident, barman, Zuhayr, Najam1, Blue_ray, redstar, InksEvermore, kjo, Suco_169, blue_rayy, theshadow0, MichaelEaborn, MrViktoryMudd, Tshiamo, Veenie, M3phisto, siddusurv, Mr_Beuller, SalonY and 35 visitors agree.
Alex, SweetAngel, juliette_os, Spy, Ghauri, Sunni, Nury, Ematio, mmjd14, human, Pugsly, Challenger, thereal, Nemiroff, cdogy and 28 visitors disagree.
Hi Mr.Stevenchen...we all are friends Here....we r nt competitor...we are jst like a Cute group & we r here to discuss on some serious matter...
You enjoy hiding as long as it lasts, but be warned.
I was here first. Run home to your echo chamber and leave the people who want to debate in peace.
Go hide from LL Cool J, and leave me be.
You are lying and have nothing but hiding your identity.
I'm really not worried. I have friends, family, a wife and daughter, and am happy with my life. I don't need to attack minorities to feel important.
Since I have never seen that kind of reaction I can only assume that you are such a creep in real life that people are nauseated by your presence. Goodness knows some of your arguments here are sickening.
There are a lot of people who are nauseated by creeps who hide and pretend people want to see them, and be their friend, especially nonmuslim clowns!
Allah will eventually kill and unmask you for all to see, be patient.
You aren't Jesus, so I aint worried you are going to escape off to heaven without anyone noticing.
Najam, I don't care who you know.
And I have never had anyone vomit from seeing me. Does that happen to you alot?
I already know thousands of people you dumb buffoon.
You are hiding because those observing you won't vomit
None of those things describe me or my life. Stop fishing for information so you can stalk me.
You behave as the typical broke cop still living in his Moms basement. Your only car is borrowed from the government, so are your gun and shoes. Yet treat me as if I am in your pathetic situation.
I'm not going through all this with you again. If you want to debate, great. If not, why are you here?
As long as you're the boogey man, I can challenge you all I want.
You are the one hiding.
I cant credibly challenge a fictitious person because its not even you.
We couldn't even play this game if we actually knew each other.
I'm not getting back into that with you. I wouldn't give you my personal information when you wanted to fight me and I wonder give it to you now that you apparently want to buy me flowers. I'm here to debate, not meet up with singles in my area. If that is a problem for you, find somewhere else to be that better suits what you are looking for.
You are only here to hide as long as the one tolerates it, but ultimately, you'll be unmasked.
OK. Like I said, I'm not judging you.
I have the 4 wives in the spiritual realm already, I just haven't picked 4 in the physical realm, but I have no concubines. I went from barely something to almost nothing a few years ago.
Of course I can send a man flowers without being one of the homosexuals.
Its much more conducive to a better life to send a man the black rose while he is yet alive and breathing, than only sending them for his funeral.
I'm not here to judge you. I am happily married, but I don't think any less of an unmarried man sending flowers to those he wishes to court. I am glad I won't have to politely turn down your advances though.
Well you seemed fairly practiced in offering, and you wanted to make sure I knew that you weren't expressing romantic interest this time you offered to send roses. That must mean that you usually are expressing romantic interest when you send a man roses.
The man hides better than you who dare says Najam bought him flowers.
I'm not sure why you assume I would think you had romantic interest in me. Do you have romantic interest in most of the men you buy flowers for?
I am not a racist or prejudiced in deciding the color of a rose to be sent.
On the contrary my slippery elusive foe.
I never indicated what color rose before you get dreamy eyed and star struck in a feeling that I have love for you.
Don't worry. You'll never have to keep that empty promise anything more than you've had to keep your empty threats.
Well, if I ever figure out where you hide, I can send a bouquet of thornless roses, in case you suffer injury grasping them in frustration.
So ever gardener who has been scratched by rose thorns was evil?
I don't see good people destroying rose gardens and despising fertility. You have the bad intentions, and get exactly what's deserved.
Roses like thorns because they make anyone who bothers them bleed. Not really a good sentiment for an intelligent person to adopt.
Hoods are not slums.
Roses actually like the thorns.
Najam runs and hides from questions. He makes unrelated statements and empty threats to avoid having to debate rationally and reasonably.
You were trying to justify calling someone you know nothing about a coward by claiming if they didn't hide they would be killed. To support this argument, you would need to provide evidence, not just claim it over and over. Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument stronger, it shows the weakness of it as it demonstrates you have no support other than your own opinion.
Americans travel the world. Most don't spend time in slums and dangerous areas, because those aren't particularly attractive places to visit. If you are claiming, as you have in the past, that all Americans need to stay in America, where you believe the corrupt police kill anyone who steps out of line, you need to explain why American tourists can be found around the world. You also need to explain how you are not insulting yourself, seeing as you live in the US as well.
Najam runs and hides from no one.
They have to hide who they are, and who their children are, even if the children have grown up and have their own guns.
who said were fighting??
we aren't fighting, we are talking
That's nice. You haven't seen them. That means nothing.
The cowards always lie, but I never see them outside in any urban areas where the cops aren't.
What makes you think you know anything about the lives of people you have never met?
no we can go where we want. I have had many friends go to dif. countries and they have never needed a body guard
You are lying because you know you will be killed, so you have to hide, and lie about potential you know damn well you don't have. Paying security and bodyguards won't even work for you.
Did you find it tempting to leave the beach and go walk around them?
big padre, when i went to thailand on my vactions for a beach party. I saw some slums near the beach.
that's the thing... American can go where ever the want.... and given the options, Haitian slums doesn't seem like a destination many people WANT to go to. more like a place most people want to get out off. including the haitains.
American journalists do visit slums. in haiti, in Africa, in South america. what you said is just plain wrong.
why would ordinary tourists looking for a beach vacation or a historic tour WANT to go to slums? and if they wanted to they could. they have plenty of activist and volunteer tours to many of these impoverished areas.
Why would I want to walk around the ghettos of Haiti?
And again, you are American. Anything you say about Americans not being able to travel reflects on you.
You can't walk around the ghettos of Haiti at night. I know you lie about being able to travel about because you only hide where you feel safe. I am safe in all the places they won't tolerate your presence.
You say that, but I have traveled without being killed. Either you are simply wrong, or you are projecting your own fear onto others. Either way, you assumptions about my life are laughably wrong.
Cowards are trapped in USA and make life hard for travellers and visitors.
You are the coward who will be killed for leaving, not everyone else.
You live in the US. If you travel to places where you have to fight for your life, that is your own fault for putting yourself in dangerous situations. It also doesn't really help your argument that you can travel safely and I can't when I have traveled and still haven't had to fight off cannibals and murderers.
Dare you assign me any portion of the planet to move about or dwell. You are the one trapped in USA. The Muslim can go anywhere he can afford the journey on or off the planet.
You live in the US. How often have you had to fight for your life?
well, like I said ;
anybody has to fight for their lives no matter where they live. Even if it's not a cannibal, a regular killer is just as an unsatisfactory of an opponent.
Yes, crimes happen. I have never denied that. Congratulations, you are debating against no one.
You keep lying and making sure to hide from the crooks. They exist, and they do kill people.
For all of your rambling about what evil people do, I have yet to see anyone say any of that. Perhaps you are simply an idiot and seeing evil where none exists.
Watch out Najam. I'm going to eat you.
Evil people on Earth always lie and say that all humans are very nice, and nobody ever kills anyone. Evil people always lie and tell every human that they are not going to die until they reach the age of 90! Evil people also lie and tell police that hell doesn't exist, so the police can do all the crimes he wants as long as he is willing to commit suicide if confronted.
That's nice. I still don't care about your opinions unless you can back them with evidence.
As to your argument regarding the crime rates in the us, so what? Most people will never have to fight for their lives against a criminal. Most people will never have to fight off those cannibals you are so afraid of. Yes, it happens. But since your own article mentions that they are near record lows, I'm not sure how you think it supports your opinion.
when you insult the Muslim and hurl your name calling, it only reminds us of the punishment Allah promises the criminals.
anybody has to fight for their life anywhere on the planet.
Even a person in America should understand that killers will kill even though it's illegal.
People have to fight for their lives every single day all over planet. Someone kills somebody everywhere. There is no special place where people aren't killed by killers.
You need to grow up and accept that some people are going to kill others, even if you put such a person in prison.
are you proud to be an american?
Honestly, I have no idea because think he is a troll.
where do you think najam 1 is from?
First, because people in developed nations rarely have need of fighting off attackers. It happens, but not often. Second, because you seem to think the world is full of cannibals and you are their primary enemy. I'm curious where that particular delusion comes from.
Why should it matter if the one fighting you is a known cannibal or not?
I fought many men without a care or knowledge of what their intentions of doing with my carcass.
How many times have you fought off cannibals trying to eat you?
Everytime I emphasize any group of people engaged in wrongdoing, you defend them and attack me for criticizing.
You won't get away with the tactic at the great day of judgement because you will too busy defending your own actions. Enjoy your advantage now, though!
I'm not defending crimes, nor am I pretending they don't exist. Try again, but this time base your argument on reality.
Of course I despise those who murder, and do daily bloodshed because you are desperate to convince me that all the humans not participating in our debates are all behaving like gentle lambs.
People like you are always going to defend serious crimes by pretending it absolutely doesn't occur, and that the one criticizing the daily chaos and murder is the one actually commuting the daily bloodshed.
So far the only one who has said anything about despising anyone is you.
This is why we can't all be friends here. There are people like you who are just too intolerant and narrow minded.
You are angry that I made fools out of your undesirable, repulsive punk men who despise the existence of unmarried women on the Earth.
You then ran from the question when pressed on what you intended the married man to do in a room full of naked women, finally claiming you were suggesting he tell them to get depressed and go find their brothers and fathers. How you thought that was logical eluded me then and still does.
The fact that you consider that to be an intellectual victory shows that you are wildly out if touch with reality.
No. You just said he shouldn't sleep with his wife. He should find prostitutes and rooms full of naked women.
You are the one doing all that.
Why are you so fond of reminiscing on the mental spanking handed to you so long ago.
Need I remind you I never said for the man to actually have sex with the prostitutes in our little online pantomime?
You don't invite, you insult. You also ramble about your imaginary world. You talk about massive conspiracies with evil to hide the truth and people being controlled by evil spirits. You also encourage people to disregard your own faith an sleep with prostitutes and strippers.
it's certainly no picnic inviting a blood thirsty savage. So there's always going to be fighting in defence, because a cannibal won't stop being a cannibal unless he understands first why it's criminal.
That's why you aren't qualified to teach Islam.
The failure to invite even the worst amongst mankind, even the ignorant illiterate peasant ;
to an opportunity to enroll amongst the ranks of the best will count against my overall rating.
If you are hanging out with women like you describe, that says more about you than me.
Only some men are down low brothers and hide the fact they have sex with men, because there are women on the Earth who don't even care, as long as she gets some.
If my job is inviting people to Islam, of course I hear and know more about the protests of others. Your own refusal and reasons are now part of my arsenal.
I know such women. You are the one that doesn't get out and mingle. Too busy on the internet to explore the people, places, and things out of plain sight.
I'm not sure how you think that is relevant, or true.
Women who have sex with men they know are gay those women are extremely opposed to Islam and loyalty to any husband, due to the nature of the men they sex.
I'm sure it will be the first universally accepted religion. In spite of your own expressed belief that the word is full of people working against it, I'm sure everyone will eventually embrace it.
Islam will enter the front door of every household, even the home of the criminal.
Just like the Greek Gods were. And like Judaism was. And like Christianity is now. But I'm sure Islam will be the religion to rise and never fall.
Islam is superior and nothing will surpass it.
Since you want to discuss humanity.
How many children have you personally assisted in taking their first steps amongst us?
How many have you held and comforted while in fear and taking their first breaths of the oxygen here?
The problem with your statement is not only is this debate not about me personally, yet you had the volition to not only mention my name ; you bring an intellectual spanking I handed you days, or even weeks ago.
Next, I haven't even made any posts giving the understanding of Islam. This is a debate app. Islam is already superior. You openly doubting my knowledge of Islam means nothing to anyone reading it because if you understood more about it than I do, why wouldn't I be the one attempting to generate enemies and opponents for you amongst people who don't even know you?
This site a debate app but I do agree with you we should be friends or at least the people who got this app should be people who don't get mad when they lose a debate. It seems that certain people (not calling names) have been the issue.
But if we ignore him, anyone reading a debate might not realize he is just talking out his a$$ and believe he is right. That's about the only reason I point out his lies and bad arguments. I am aware that there is no hope of him learning to debate properly.
Najam is a complete f***ing retard that doesnt know shit about Islam or anything else. He should be ignored by everybody on this app for the sake of human sanity.
You realize you sound like an idiot, right? Not everyone eats dogs or people, so by making that your argument, you make an argument that is irrelevant to most situations, and especially here.
You say you have a verse that counterparts that, but you fail to post it. Could it be that you are, as usual, lying?
I have the verse which countermands that order. As a nonmuslim you fail to understand our structure and chain of command, even to the very verses.
Those versus won't nullify the one that orders us not to befriend those who reject the invitation to the Jannah.
Even without the verse you know Allah created many human neighbors that will eat human or dog flesh.
If they won't accept the invitation to be better people, we can't be their friends.
They will claim it's in their culture and continue to eat what Allah has prohibited humans from eating.
They will have to accept us as neighbors or else.
If you lack a basic understanding of your own faith, someone needs to educate you. Since you seem to have forgotten, I'll copy and paste the verses that contradict your prejudice. Which part of the Qur'an do you think your opinion is more important than?
As for such [of the unbelievers] as do not fight against you on account of [your] faith, and neither drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to behave towards them with full equity: for, verily, God loves those who act equitably. (Quran 60:8)
God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of [your] faith, and drive you forth from your homelands, or aid [others] in driving you forth: and as for those [from among you] who turn towards them in friendship; it is they, they who are truly wrongdoers! (Quran 60:9)
"a mere nonmuslim"
Lol, your arrogance is hilarious.
A mere nonmuslim has no authority to preach or teach the actual precepts of the Holy Quran.
Why don't you stick to telling the rulesof your group?
We are trying to be friends with Allah, there's no way to befriend those who are adversaries to him if you are his ambassador.
Which is contradicted by the Qur'an, so again, where do you get these stupid ideas?
i believe in human faith
No friend to Muslim unless you believe us.
can i be your friend?
I mean, we might disagree on some things but that doesn't mean we are enemies or hate each other. I can probably say most if not all people who oppose my views are smart and nice people.
There are certainly things I do not agree with people about on this app, but that doesn't mean I think they are terrible people. We will likely have too many differences to be close friends, but I haven't debated anyone I disliked who was not just trolling.