The debate "Christianity is fiction that people took too seriously. and no one can prove me wrong" was started by
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December 7, 2015, 6:45 am.
20 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 19 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
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godisjustsomethingwemade posted 4 arguments to the agreers part.
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AlexRose1517, Rokai, Tiredandred, Sli, WaspToxin, truth_or_ture, kgb, KaitlynBrown, laurafuna and 11 visitors agree.
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First, just to refute this argument, as its already been stated this is just a probability argument, and cannot prove that Christ's story was a model of other stories.
Now just a couple points. 1 is the fact that there are sources for Jesus Christ outside of the Bible. The famous Jewish historian Josephus wrote about a man named Jesus who died on the cross, giving evidence of Christ outside of the Bible.
Next is the fact that Christ fulfilled many prophecies. I'm not sure of the exact number, but I believe it was over 60. These prophecies were made hundreds of years before Christ by multiple authors of Old Testament books. And those authors also lived in different time periods. He fulfilled every single prophecy made in the old testament.
Don't sweat it. This is a debating app. It's all about claim and argument. If the claim is indefensible it's easy to just go after that and claim an easy win. You should look up the countless topics on God exists/doesn't exist etc... It's all the same. Your topic wasn't bad, you just worded it so it was easy to disprove.
We're all here to debate and every once in a while you can snag an undeniable victory so why not grab it. Just a warning, there are some really smart people on here who will get you on technical arguments if you make any mistakes. Just the nature of the game. My arguments weren't anything personal or anything against the topic, just an easy way to get defeat a claim.....
Like I said, I actually agree with the claim in spirit and it's always strange when I find myself arguing "for" religion.....so thanks for that.
im starting to regret typing the title of this discussion now.
i apologise for the misleading title, because this is something i cant prove without valid evidence, which i dont have.
It's an argument based on conjecture. Again, I agree with the spirit of the argument, but it still doesn't prove your conclusions since your conclusions doesn't necessarily follow your premise.
Based on the argument you can only lyrics say that other stories exists that mimic that of Jesus Christus, however, you can't say with any sort of certainty that he is simply a retelling. You can only make a probability argument...
And no one can prove you right...
fair enough, i was not completely serious when typing this, only wanted to see what kind of people would reply.
But while were at the topic ill try disproving Jesus existence.
so the story of Christ, healed the sick, given birth by a virgin, rose from the dead.
these can be compared to Apollonius of Tyana, his story is very similar to Christ's.
But Apollonius was born c. 3 BC so thats a thing. not only that christ's characteristics are incredibly similar to Dionysus, Osiris, Horus, Mithra and Krishna, these are gods from other religions or stories.
Apollonius story might not be true at all for all we know but it is similar to jesus's,
which raises a few suspicions on him being a copycat, not to mention the rest of the gods similarities.
so what i believe is that the bible is only a collection of myths and fiction, that has been scrambled and changed over time.
you know, old folktales that are a bit different each decade.
so that brings me to believe that jesus is only a fictional character based on other famous gods. any arguements? i would like to hear
While I agree with the sentiment of the claim, I don't think this claim is defensible.
You are arguing pro. This means the burden of proof is on you.... By extension you have to actually disprove Christianity. Therefore, you will have to disprove one of the pillars of Christianity....that would mean proving Jesus Christus never existed, that he was never resurrected, that there is no soul, or that there is no objective morality.
You cannot affirm your claim without doing one of the above. You are shifting the burden of proof of you try and place it on con. The most intellectually honest argument anyone can make about the falsehood of Christianity is that it is UNLIKELY to be true. You are overstating your case significantly.
It is fairly likely that someone named Jesus lived roughly 2000 years ago. The story of Noah's flood is likely based on a real flood that got exaggerated over time.
Even if you just look at the Bible as a collection of fairy tales there is likely a kernel of truth in many of them and they simply grew with retelling them over many years. The same could be said of many more recent folk tales, like John Henry.
Looking at the topic literally, Christianity is not fiction. The stories it is based on may be largely fictitious, but Christianity itself exists.
First these reasons I disagree with the topic.
try proving me wrong, i'd like to see what you guys come up with