The debate "Christians. we need to unite" was started by
November 20, 2016, 12:20 pm.
19 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 13 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
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Blue_ray, Yanksxx21, LepakshiSehgal, redeemed, Ematio, human and 13 visitors agree.
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let's discuss this in a diff. debate.so we can keep on track
not enforce but give the option. do u not like making informed choices?
a) a broken leg won't stop u from walking but it will slow u down. especially if it's fighting u as well
b) I'm not talking about people who have heard and decide to go deaf to it I'm talking about the ones who haven't heard because if Jesus's name is said they die.would u say that's right?
if it is publicly funded is to provide basic services to poor areas.
abortion should not be the right of the rich only. if it is legal it should be available for all. especially since it is the poor who have an actual financial need, and can't afford child care while they continue an education.
abortion aside. pp provides testing of stds and other services to poor areas that have massive effect on health of a large portion of our population. even if abortion is banned (for all) these services should continue to be subsidized as they are beneficial to the economy of this nation by keeping people healthy and diseases from spreading.
Christians have been devided for almost 2000 years. it didn't stop Christianity from spreading. and you aren't addressing the fact that non Christians don't want you to try to preach to them. if the only reason to unite is to try to convert people and enforce your religious views on others then I'd say it's a very good thing Christians aren't united.
The united we stand. The divided we fall.
This has to be the dumbest statement ever. Go look up the Hyde Amendment. It clearly states how the public funds that planned parenthood receives cannot be used (abortions). Not only does the Hyde Amendment keep planned parenthood from using public money for abortion services, it prevents Medicaid patients from using those funds to obtain an abortion.
Either you're ignorant of the facts surrounding this issue or you're blatantly disseminating false information.
not force but get known and have a chance to know Christ
Why is planned parenthood publicly funde
Atheistic pomposity at its finest. I dont want to fund abortions.
so your argument for why Christians need to unite is that it will make it easier to force your views on others?
some shout but not together. ergo the unity is needed.
we have. look at America we were a Christian nation that accepted everyone. eventually we stopped saying the word Christian and started to go away from God which is why I think part of our problems stem from
I'm not doing it God is. I'm just an instrument of his will.
to do what God wants us to do. follow Him. lead others to Him.unity is key to strength we can be fly's being killed one by one or be wasp and fight back with God's word and way
Christians get pushed around. Every court ruling goes against them. With so many of us youd figure there would be a stronger opposition.
I wasn't aware that any Christian anywhere had submitted to atheism. so you are going to have make more sense than that.
To show something other than submission to bigoted atheists:)
catholics are about half. but many of them don't agree with the church's stance. just because you belong to a group doesn't mean you agree with everything the group does.
and even if the large majority all believe homosexuality is wrong. you will never get them to unite because they see you as bigots.
what is this calling you have as a whole? what would a unified Christianity do? you still won't answer why you need to unify.
a) didn't u say the Catholic faith makes over half the Christian faith so technically the majority believes it b)look at example why
anything is possible with our God.
We believe we have a calling individual and as a whole but how are we supposed to do either if we are fighting amongst ourselves?
and there are millions of Christians who don't believe homosexuality is a sin. the Catholic Church built a tradition saying it was and that carried over to other sects as well. you won't be able to unite anyone if you can't compromise on beliefs.
to make it simple, many Christian sects won't unite with bigots. and the Catholic Church, and other sects, promote that. unity is not possible.
and you still haven't given any examples of what unified Christians would do differently than we are doing right now.
and He will help us
no. I don't hate anyone who sins. only the sin itself.(not Catholic.doesnt matter though)
I said most not all. also gave an example why. though it doesn't matter it's not part of this debate
But we do believe on the same, merciful God
The whole debate is that Christianity should unite, but you have fundamental differences in faith. Many Christians do NOT think homosexuality is a sin. You are not willing to change your belief, and they think you are wrong for thinking it is. How do you overcome this?
This is the problem with religious disagreements. There is no compromise.
Comfort is the antithesis to debate. Homosexual action is a sin. I am supposed to oppose sin, but the ones who do it are as fractured as I.
So you don't hate gay people, just that they exist? I'm not being condescending, I just honestly don't understand the distinction you are trying to make.
Let's remove the gay issue altogether if it would make you more comfortable. Should clergy be celibate or should they be able to marry?
Stop throwing up the strawman "against gay people". Catholics have no issues with gay people, only homosexuality in its own existence.
Priests can be gay... You're completely ignorant on the issue.
Fair enough. Not all leaders are corrupt, but even the best want to protect their constituents over those who aren't. That's what they are elected to do.
No, "Christians in general" are not against gay people and clergy. The Catholic Church is. Various other sects are. Several sects are not against them and follow Jesus' example of loving thy neighbour and not judging. Even amongst Catholics, there are many who are not so fundamentalist as to be against gay people.
idk. Christians overall are agaisnt that one. one reason being is God made Eve to complete Adam instead of making another man in his image.
some, some not. depends on the person wouldn't u say? look at this debate app. u will see people thinking only of themselves and ones with bleeding hearts. people are people it doesn't matter if ur religious or not.
But which version of God should all Christians introduce? The one that condemns gay people or the one who allows gay clergy?
For the record, world leaders aren't trying to get world peace because they are looking out for their nation's best interests even when it is not best for other nations. Others are simply out for their own best interests and greed, regardless of who it hurts. This creates conflict. Are you saying religious leaders are likewise willing to harm those not of their flock to promote their own best interests and those of their followers?
because we let it. right here right now I'm offering to let us stop looking at the differences and come together for our shared goal. anyone can do this but the next sentence will be pointed toward Christians. let's stop going over our differences and look together toward our main reason of life. to let people know God and Jesus.
Exactly, we belong to the same kingdom, same class, same order, same family, same genus, same species.. Why don't we see that.. Why every time religion, caste, place, race, sex and all divide us..
why have gov. not been trying to get world peace? we are looking at our differences instead of our similarities
Why have religious leaders not been talking then? Do they want to remain divided?
why do we need to accept both? also I believe we can talk amongst ourselves better than u give us credit
true we do. but if man can't make that possible which we have seen for thousands of years then who will? our answer is God
no. I want unity so we can do what were supposed to
we should invite under God's banner.
because fighting helps no one. we need to come together so we can do what God wants us to do
that article didn't say anything even remotely useful. Christians believe different things. each sect is unwilling to compromise on what they consider to be the correct interpretation if Christianity. therefore it is not possible.
unless all Christians are willing to accept gay marriage and women priests etc, unity cannot happen.
Even if the Christians United,, would that be enough... Guys not just Christians we all need to unite.. I agree with historybuff that it is not practical to unite as we all think that our race or caste is superior... But we have to unite or these constant wars are going to destroy everything... We all need to UNITE
unity is possible.
and right there is a perfect example of why Christianity, and religion in general, is incapable of unity. anyone with a different view of things is just assumed to be wrong. you only want unity if everyone changes to be like you.
i wanna unite with god.
There is no compromise in deontology
you have already told us you are not willing to compromise. there are many Christians who have no problem with same sex marriage. you are not going to be able to unite anyone without compromise and you can't do that. that is exactly why every previous attempt to unify Christianity has failed. everyone thinks their views are the "true" beliefs and everyone else should change to be like them.
The morality behind the belief is crucial. Perverting a sacred union is hardly a Christian value.
Some Christians reject Maccabees, but we can still find the underlying moral backgrounds.
Anglicans and Presbyterians are largely accepting of same sex couples and even allow same sex clergy members.
It is hard to say all Christians should unite unless you are willing to meet them halfway, right?
So you feel that Christianity should unite behind your sect's banner? Hardly a good argument considering they likely feel the same way about some of your practices and beliefs.
Protestants would say that of Catholic indulgences. United churches would say it of the intolerance preached towards gay people. Catholics would say it of others not following the guidance of the Pope. Every sect feels the others are not truly following Jesus teachings since that is what divides them.
I would argue any Christian group advocating for sinfulness is not Christian.
Would you give up on aspects of your faith in the name of unity? Would you accept gay marriage to unite with the sects that don't have a problem with it, or would you expect them to adopt your beliefs?
what are you supposed to do? you really aren't explaining why Christian unity is needed.
unity.fufill what were supposed to do.
A) he has made it possible we chose not to. b) God tends to take the worst situation and turn it around.
what would uniting accomplish? what would you do?
and if God didn't make it possible for the last 2000 years, why would it be possible now when Christians are as divided as they have ever been?
unite together instead of bickering.with God everything is possible
united to do what? I'd also like to point out that Christians haven't been on united in thousands of years. it is completely impossible.
we need to stop fighting over the small details and raise Jesus's flag instead. let's stop worrying about the small pic. and look to God