Churches should pay more taxes

April 1, 2014, 2:09 pm

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The debate "Churches should pay more taxes" was started by JohnnieWalker on April 1, 2014, 2:09 pm. 40 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 19 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

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I disagree.

The legal term "religion" should be replaced with "philosophy of religion". Included under this term should be philosophies of non-religion, as being philosophies of religion which take the stance that no religion is true or has proved itself true enough to be relied upon for a philosophy of religion. This should open up non-religious philosophies to having tax-free places of aggregation where philosophies of living without religion can be constructed without economic pressure, and from where the arguments against religion may be made without economic pressure working against it.

At the end of the day if you try to oppress religion, you are trying to oppress a majority of people whose belief is that freedom is freedom of worship. Doing that would spark rebelion. You don't want to give religious people an excuse to militarize more than they already are. You want to even the playing field by giving the non-religious the same freedom of expression and freedom to gathering and communial behaviour as is given to them. As at the end of the day, if no religion is true, then we are social animals and we at times rely on one another in communities, and some of us who are non-religious want rightfully to do this without having to participate falsley in religions we do not agree with.

4 years, 8 months ago

@echofrommadium
I doubt the intent was to single out Christians. I have a feeling that the topic is meant to cover all religions. For the sake of argument, it's always best to view the opposing argument in the best light, so the term "church" simply refers to a religious institution regardless of faith.

Free place to worship.
This makes no sense. The government does not have the responsibility to provide a place to pray for anyone. The only responsibility it has, as far as religion goes, is to not prohibited it.

Arguments for taxation.
I believe a portion or the revenue collected by churches should go to taxes. When money is used to further the church, I.e. Building expansions, salary for priests etc... Funds that go back directly to the community, I.e. Good banks, volunteer work etc... Should remain tax free. It would encourage churches to be part of the community.

With new religions, namely scientology and the like, raking in millions without being active in the community, it defeats the purpose of the tax break that churches get.

Churches should be treated more like "not for profit businesses". This means that churches would have to open their books and have their finances reviewed. Not-for-profit business must submit detailed 990 forms. These forms are currently waved for churches.

The church tax break is also routinely abused and used for the sole purpose of avoiding taxes.

When churches help communities they are directly participating in the wellbeing of our nation and thus that portion of the revenue should remain untaxed. All other endeavors the church undertakes should be subject to tax laws as not-for-profit business.

4 years, 8 months ago

I know everybody is thinking about those mega churches, sure tax the crap out of them. it won't hurt them. but there are a lot more poor churches who can't rub two nickels.

4 years, 8 months ago

I totally disagree to that. Church is the place of worship for Christians. It shouldn’t be a business place that should pay more taxes. Besides, it has to be the same as other worship places like Mosques or Temples. I think it’s government’s responsibility to provide free facilities to support its citizens to pray.

5 years, 2 months ago

Agreed. Untold amounts of revenue is lost in the name of "religious tolerance" while corrupt churches grift money off their followers, selling only hopes and dreams and spreading discontent.

5 years, 2 months ago

They are sitting on trillions of real estate wealth.

5 years, 6 months ago
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