College graduates should work in their local communities for a few years

April 29, 2015, 2:55 pm

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The debate "College graduates should work in their local communities for a few years" was started by Chabii on April 29, 2015, 2:55 pm. By the way, Chabii is disagreeing with this statement. 21 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 26 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

I_Voyager posted 2 arguments, Shahmir posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
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I_Voyager, jonatron5, Shahmir, Raydiff3r, hae_bae, DarkAngelAnarchist, sdiop and 14 visitors agree.
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Another aspect of your community outputting millionaire software engineers and musicians is that, had they stayed in the area, they may not have been as successful. Musicians need an audience to succeed and, while rural areas have some venues, there is not the same audience base to attract. Likewise software engineers typically congregate so that they can work together. Silicon Valley is a good place to be if you are looking to get ahead in programming and tech, Montreal is good if you want to be a game developer (Ubisoft Montreal does a lot of AAA games). You can succeed in either of these professions without being in areas known for them, but it is more difficult and more rare.

4 years, 6 months ago

local service to the community can be recquired, but not at the cost of a job, and startinf your career. weekends, and maybe a recquired amount of hours over a course of time, but it should not take precedence over kick starting your career. furthermore, your family and the student pays for your college, so what do they owe? are you talking about public education?

4 years, 6 months ago

I know because I looked for employment in the area before ranging further afield. The only lyrics jobs in the area that I would be qualified for (I'm not an electrician or anything like that so trade jobs are out) would be retail, as a farm hand, or working for the municipality. There are currently no openings for the municipality other than upcoming summer jobs, and farm hands do not get paid enough to support my family. Add to that the fact that these jobs are often filled by students who are looking for summer work, and my taking them rather than going elsewhere would deprive a student of a potentially needed summer job. All that remains is retail, which does not really benefit the community. I could do volunteer work, but again that leaves myself, my wife and my daughter with a hard time keeping a roof over our heads and food in our cupboards.

Furthermore, many rural areas have higher than average unemployment. That is a factor that drives people away. If there are people looking for work who are having trouble finding it, adding more recent graduates to the area either continues to leave those individuals unemployed, or leaves the graduates unemployed.

Finally, the argument is based on the premise that graduates have received a benefit from their community. I don't know that people necessarily receive a benefit from their community. If they go away to school, which community should they be obligated to serve? They grew up in one community, then we're educated in another. Should they stay in their college town, or return to their hometown?

4 years, 6 months ago

Even more so when you consider the multitudes of benefits you as the graduate and the community as a whole.
As more and more members of the community starts to leave, that cycle will cause the community to never grow. It will constantly remain that same community for a long time.

If however, all the graduates help, not only does it improve the community economically and can transform the society, but it also creates the mindset in individuals whereby you need to give back what you've been given (in a way).

4 years, 6 months ago
I_Voyager
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How do you know there is no work you can do with your local government? Your local school? Your local library? Maybe you can open a short-term practice, or even in doing what you can to get by - like working retail - in your off-time solving problems by some social method? How do you know you can't start a business which you can later sell, or at least at some point in your life buy and build up some property with valuable community services?

I come from a farming town too. Mine's outputs touring musicians and millionaire software engineers, actors and intellectuals. None of them stay to input some of that developed nature into their community. But the point in community is just that, working together. You, atomized, can do nothing. Your vote is meaningless, and every life you touch only ever touches one life. But your community, with you and other graduates coming together to form active groups thinking, building and starting movements among the youth can influence and improve your community.

4 years, 6 months ago

I was raised in a farming community. There is little work, and none that make use of my degree, in the community. Should I take a retail job in the area just to repay the community?

What about people raised in major cities? Do they owe their particular section of the community, or the city at large?

4 years, 6 months ago

I think you owe it to contribute to the communities which reared you.

4 years, 6 months ago

thiwr out of college, and ready to pursue thier lives with the job they have been looking forwars to for years, why stop thier ambition ?

4 years, 6 months ago

If the community pays for the education, then yes (some areas are doing this to attract doctors) but otherwise the graduates paid for a service (education) and are free to do with it as they please.

4 years, 6 months ago
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