The debate "Communism is not an ideal political system." was started by
July 14, 2020, 2:40 pm.
29 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 5 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
Logan_Spalding posted 2 arguments, Gallika posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
DavidTheGreat, Flux, Logan_Spalding, LastRadiation, Aphyllous, Gallika and 23 visitors agree.
5 visitors disagree.
Communism is a fairy tale in the same way capitalism is a fairy tale. We've never had a pure capitalist society and we never will.
Whatever entity monopolises violence becomes the de facto ruler. Without a monopoly on violence you have gangs fighting for power like in the middle east and south America. So at the very least capitalism needs a state to keep the peace.
as is liberitarianism. a health mix is best imo.
although mass automation may change that.
Communism is fantasy tale and a badly written one
and as much as i agree that communism, authoritarian or not, is nonfunctional; Liberitarianism is just as nonfunctional.
regulated capitalism is the only functional system we have today.
communism is the ideal.
socialism is a wide variety of ideas with communism being the extreme form.
and i can argue that none of those nations were communist.
Bashar al Asad, the dictator of Syria with 97% approval during and before a civil war calls his nation a "Democratic Republic". i think we can all agree words are cheap and their policies are more important than what they choose to call themselves.
Poverty kills people. Communism, socialism, capitalism all have poverty.
Poverty is a feature of capitalism, but fixing it is the purpose of socialism/communism.
Unfortunately, the countries with full-blown socialism have always been poor, bottom heavy countries. So distribution fails. Rich countries are top heavy so it's not impossible.
If a country has a duty to provide justice to its citizens, and if capitalism is not a perfect meritocracy for everyone, then the country should help those in poverty.
Socialism is 'ideal' in the sense it ignores reality and focuses on ideals. It assumes the government knows how to manage and distribute resources well. But, there are many industries that require market forces to force innovation, so full-blown socialism weakens the country. But fearing socialism also weakens the country. A model should be a harmony of the two.
i 100% agree that regulated capitalism is the superior economic model, however neither capitalism nor communism are political models. which is another point i wish to make.
communism has continually failed every time... taking millions of lives in the process... people in communist countries may be "equal", but that just means they're oppressed equally... under communism you wait for bread, under capitalism the bread waits for you... now what makes you think communism is the best solution we have? is the cramp down on freedom? is it the starvation? is it the genocide that comes along with it?
what is an ideal political system?