The debate "Conservatives vs liberals shoot" was started by
July 3, 2015, 3:07 am.
14 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 10 people are on the disagree side.
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jets8394 posted 1 argument, amanofprogress posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
PsychDave posted 3 arguments, arsonfly posted 1 argument, Sosocratese posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
jets8394, toughgamerjerry, amanofprogress, sabrina, Quantum, ajay17 and 8 visitors agree.
PsychDave, arsonfly, Sosocratese, BernieSanders4pres, Alp4president, musejay1 and 4 visitors disagree.
With the current clown car of presidential hopefuls on the GOP side, it's hard to justify giving any of them my vote.... Hillary maybe, but I don't know what good she'll do. I don't hear her standing for anything in particular at the moment. Bernie Sanders will probably not get the nomination... Guess it's third party for me.
As far as values go, I'd say I'm more of a liberal mixed with libertarian (the two do go so nicely together)
I believe poverty is a necessary condition of a capitalist society and in order to have wealth you must have poverty. Those with wealth have it because someone else doesn't. This means they are directly benefiting from someone else's struggle. It is therefore their responsibility to make sure that those in poverty don't struggle for the necessities (Healthcare, housing, food, etc...) I believe an educated public should be the countries number one priority.
As far as guns go (just because someone else mentioned it) I would love to see more regulations. I'd love to see a driver's license type deal to buy guns. It's just absurd that we are so far behind the rest of the developed world on this.
I don't care what you do on your own time as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. I don't want to see you throw your cigarette in the streets and use our streets as your trashcan, but I don't care that you're smoking. I don't care who you come home to at night, who you marry, who you choose to raise kids with, etc.... I don't care who/what/if you worship, just don't use it to influence politics.
as in which ones are better? I find myself liberal on everything but guns. I never saw a problem with helping people and giving people their rights. on everything but guns liberals are all about people's rights, so on everything but guns I'm on the side of liberals. but I guess that doesn't answer the question. truth is there is no solid answer. any free thinking person is somewhere in the middle.
Well eventually conservative v liberal always comes down to iraq so, lets get it over with. Today many people in Iran and Iraq still hate America, more people and more furiosly in some cases to. This is because America cuased more instability than there was before. When 9-11 happenee, we didt say, lets go kill the group that did this and also make sure that we aren't hated anymore throigh diplomacy, relations, trade, etc... we said, lets go murder the hell out orthe entire coutry those ******s are from and grind them all into the dirt with our superior till they are so broken they can't even speak, let alone say death to America. Then after we did that installed a leader, NOT EVEN FROM OUR COUNTRY BUT FROM SYRIA BY THE WAY, and left there thinking we won. Now to this day there is fear an violence. one teenager in Iraq who grew up loving America even had a small speech at some government meeting (I forget which one) and said that he actually doesn't like clear skies anymore because drones actuwlly can't fky in cloudy whether, meaning the constant threat of death from an invisible source is gone. We took away one of the last and best symbols of peace they had, clear skies. and that is my arguement against conservatives
As far as the US conservatives vs liberals go, Cheyney has already shown he is willing to shoot, so I'd give him the win.
The only stance Justin Trudeau (one of the candidates to be the next Prime Minister of Canada) has made clear is that he supports women's right to choose whether or not to get am abortion. All other issues and policies are still a mystery. While I dislike much of what Steven Harper (our current Prime Minister) has done, I would rather someone intelligent, but with an agenda I don't necessarily agree with over someone inept and naive who will make stupid decisions and cripple the country like the NDP did to Ontario when they were elected here. I don't know that he would be inept or stupid, but until I know what he stands for and what his plans are I can't say that I would vote for him.
this was intended for American politics. what do you mean pro choice?
If this is about Canadian politics, I can't decide until Justin Trudeau announces what he actually stands for, other than being pro-choice.
I decide based on platform, not party so until he releases a platform I don't know how much if his plans and opinions I agree with.