Dems Complain of No Fair Trial Yet They Weren't Fair in Congressional Hearings

February 1, 2020, 10:12 am

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The debate "Dems Complain of No Fair Trial Yet They Weren't Fair in Congressional Hearings" was started by jrardin12 on February 1, 2020, 10:12 am. 13 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 16 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

jrardin12 posted 6 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 5 arguments, TheExistentialist posted 1 argument, historybuff posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

jrardin12, bitchimaqueen and 11 visitors agree.
Nemiroff, TheExistentialist, historybuff, Anonymous42 and 12 visitors disagree.

Nemiroff
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Republicans are present on all committees and were present at all witnesses examinations. they were able to ask any question they want and had all the same powers as in past impeachments. you, or your source, are lying.

when did the opposing party get to call witnesses in other impeachments that republicans could not. no vague references, i want a specific event i can look up. no more lies.

2 months ago

In the impeachment inquiry of Johnson, Nixon and Clinton they were allowed to participate in the process in the House. The House cut out the Republicans as well by not allowing them to call witnesses. Which was unprecedented.

2 months ago
Nemiroff
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he, like me does get a chance to defend himself... at the trial. like every other defendant.

did his lawyers not get a chance to defend him at the trial?

does any defendant get a chance to defend himself at a grand jury?

why do you expect the trump to have more rights then other people?

2 months ago

Impeachment is NOT a criminal proces. How would you like to be accused of something and not be able to defend yourself?

2 months ago
Nemiroff
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normal citizen defendants are usually not present at grand jury. do you want the powerful like trump to have more rights then you and me?

he received the same process every accused gets in this country. dont like it? change it for everyone. no exceptions for trump.

you are bastardizing our legal process in favor of your king.

2 months ago

Additionally, in the bunker, the Dems were able to leak their narrative and we the people don't know what many people who were called in there even said. What is worse is that the president's council doesn't know much of people's testimony in that bunker.

2 months ago

@historybuff, you want to talk about process. The Dems didn't even follow the process. To even begin to form committees to look into impeachment you need the House to approve by a vote. Also precedent shows that Nixon and Clinton were able to have their lawyers call witnesses and cross examine witnesses.

2 months ago
Nemiroff
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he understands the process. i said as much when he first posted and then he vanished. he is not even trying to engage honestly.

2 months ago
historybuff
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You seem to misunderstand the process. The process in the house is about deciding whether or not to press charges. This isn't a trial. It isn't about presenting evidence and making a decision about guilt. It is about deciding whether there is enough evidence to move forward with charges. It would be inappropriate for a defendant to be involved in this process.

The senate is where the evidence is supposed to be presented and guilt is to be determined. Dems did exactly what they were supposed to. The republicans then refused to allow any evidence to be presented and rubber stamped a verdict. It is the republicans that rigged the trial.

2 months ago

The GOP were not able to call witnesses and the president's council wasn't allowed to defend themselves until after Impeachment had been decided.

2 months ago

Impeachment is not a judicial process.

2 months ago

How were they not fair? They invited the GOP members of each committee that had hearings to attend and question witnesses, yet members of the GOP chose not to attend, right?
They invited the president's counsel to the hearing and the WH rejected that offer, right?

2 months ago

you should really find a new source of information.

2 months ago

can you name any grand jury where the defendant provides evidence? or do you think the powerful deserve different justice from the rest of us?

2 months ago
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