Diogenes lived a life everyone should live.

anonymous
June 16, 2019, 3:51 pm

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The debate "Diogenes lived a life everyone should live." was started by an anonymous person on June 16, 2019, 3:51 pm. 5 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 5 people are on the disagree side. There is a tie in this debate, post your arguments, call some reinforcements and break this tie.

maksonmakson posted 4 arguments to the agreers part.
JDAWG9693 posted 5 arguments to the disagreers part.

Bratzela and 4 visitors agree.
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JDAWG9693
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I agree that death isn't necessarily bad, but just dying whenever you get sick withoit trying to get better is something cynicism would agree with

5 months ago
maksonmakson
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although i don't think that death is something bad, just the way you die, but i see your point. I don't know enough about these philosophies in order to continue, but i wanted to hear others' thoughts

5 months ago
JDAWG9693
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Well, one example is enough, but I can think of more if you really need. Diogenes was a dick to everyone because of his cynicism, stoicism preaches tolerance. With stoicism, one can still strive to better himself and society, including medical and technological advances. Cynicism preaches, "why do you need medicine when you can just die?" Need I go on?

5 months ago
maksonmakson
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Why, you only have an example for medical treatment

5 months ago
JDAWG9693
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Again, I would say that stoicism is much better than cynicism

5 months ago
maksonmakson
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Yeag, I didn't really mean to copy him, but that voluntarily living in poverty would make you happy if you adopt these ideas about possessions

5 months ago

in the wise words of the rock (in a movie, so not really his). "don't try to be the next me, be the next you"

5 months ago
JDAWG9693
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Also, diogenes would have likely refused medicine if he needed it because he was sick, so I don't think that that's a good way to live, either.

5 months ago

I think Seneca's stoicism was a much better way to live than Diogenes' cynicism

5 months ago

Virtue with nature and disrespecting useless social norms, while enjoying in poverty.

5 months ago
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