The debate "Doctors have a cure for cancer but since it is a money making sickness they choose to make the money" was started by
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That might be enough to see the common perception.
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sorry I meant they.
also if this is true then the doctors are breaking their oath to help every patient to the best if there abilities also celebrities who have millions of pounds still die from cancer even though they would pay a lot for the cure or pay even more to help.
but the only thing I can agree with people on is that you don't see any big cancer investors die from cancer
So I watched that video, but he doesn't offer any proof of anything, or even any evidence. Among the things the make doubts is that people would be able to overpower pilots (an extensive list of past hijackings show that is possible) and criticizes that the planes were not shot down by fighters before crashing (which would have him criticizing the government for shooting down a passenger jet). It criticizes intelligence agencies for keeping records on what caused the building collapses secret (because there is no one left who would want to recreate such a thing) and how everyone knew who was responsible (responsibility for terrorists actions is almost always claimed by those responsible and, on 9/11 there were actually several groups claiming responsibility until the plane hit the pentagon). He makes many statements that are not true, such as the lack of knowledge of funding, and that it is unlikely that news agencies could know "within minutes" Who was to blame (at that point they were speculating that someone who have released videos vowing to attack the US who then stopped might be behind it).
The video is certainly sensational, but rather light on evidence.
Well, excuse me, but I am studying for exams right now so I may seem a bit argumentative, short tempered and I only go on this site for a short amount of time due to revision so I may not have time to write such things down. And you did come across as rude when you were talking to me and especially in that last statement. I come on this site to learn how to debate - if you were just pointing out faults then you could have put it in a clearer, more effective way. But sorry for having a go.
And, yes, there is evidence that was behind American government and 9/11, source : 9/11- truth in 5minutes - James Corbett. YouTube. Watch the video, stop the argument before it becomes unnecessary.
And if you want show me an example of a perfect argument, and show/tell me how to improve instead of just telling me what is wrong because I thought I was doing alright.
Argumentum ad hominem used (fallacy).
I'm not rude, I'm pointing out fallacies in your argument.
I could point out more fallacies if I wanted but you'd just get angry.
No evidence that America was born behind 9/11 by the way. You claim you have loads of
evidence but you fail to bring it to this conversation.
"I'm too lazy" Argumentum ad hominem. Plus if I checked online I'd get "Sun gives cancer" and a plethora of other theories.
By the way, never accuse me of being lazy while you don't bring any evidence. We can't win with you. We have to accept everything you say is fact or We are "rude".
Oh, and a debate fights topics that haven't been proven nor disproven, my opinion is my opinion and that is what I am fighting for. It is my beliefs.
Jerry was wrong though. Its not McDonald's, its the normal fruit that you guys eat. You think that you are being healthy, think again!
And I take it back, there isn't a cure for cancer, but there is a solution.
And if I am basing my argument on the fact that something hasn't been proven (which I am not) then a lot of people should be picked out on this site. And it is not your job to do that! Who are you to tell me that I am doing wrong? What puts you in a position that allows you to be rude to me?!
Yes, America and 9/11 is just a theory - there is evidence that can back the statement up however I am not saying that it is correct or false, I was simply using it as an example. If you were more observant you would have realised that I said that there was a chance.
And yes, one of the main reasons for getting cancer is because of the food that we eat - it HAS been proven, just because you are too lazy to research it. Another reason why cancer is formed is because of the air that is inhaled - which the GOVERNMENT has poisoned. And guess what? That has been proven as well!
People did get Cancer years before us but only a few not millions like today - the amount of people that are being diagnosed with cancer is unnatural.
So DO NOT say that my arguments are being based off of fallacies because they are not, you need to do some research and found out what I am talking about before you wrongly accuse. Oh, and don't pull that Obama gets what Obama wants bullshit on me - I don't even live in america.
And I asked a simple question from Bearunter's statement ?Who's he??
The whole belief that doctors have the cure has not been proven or disproven.
OK number two "chance the USA is behind 9/11" not proven.
"We get cancer because of food." Jerry did good countering that.
Stop basing this stuff on a fallacy admit this isn't fact. This is a theory..
What? First of all, who says that it hasn't been proven true or false?
Second, where did you find that in my arguments?
I CAN. Fallacies should be pointed out in most cases.
It's not proven false, or true. Yet you continue like it's real. Think about this like a theory. Not necessarily true or false. Think rationally.
It's nice to see very determined people every now and then though.
No, its not! You can't just accuse people of that! And I've never mentioned anything like that, or that would lead you to that!
Argumentum ad ignorantium (argument to ignorance) the fallacy that something is true because it hasn't been proven false. This is what you base all your "facts" and statements on. a fallacy.
if this is true then why in Britain are they stopping certain treatments due to the cost to run them and are you also suggesting he is now playing god.
So your saying that if everyone stopped eating McDonald's that everyone would be healthy again? What about before McDonald's? People got cancer long before it. Cancer is like a fungus that grows on the inside of your body if I remember correctly, so to get rid of it, it would have to be an injection put onto it meant to kill it. I don't see how eating well can fix that and I also don't see how you could know that if you don't even know that they have a cure. If you know that than a lot of other people would know that and fast food places would start going out of business.
The doctors wouldn't make money if they gave the cure - its not a pill, injection, or medicine. It is what we eat. Have you heard that saying 'you are what you eat'? If you eat a load of bad food then you are going to be bad.
Its not injection that is the cure. And if they want more money for the actual cure then they are just as bad and loathsome as not selling the cure. They want money-not people to be healthy. The government is the ones that are giving us cancer.
They could sell the cure by injection. 10000 to 1000000 a piece.
You mean Obama don't like it. Because whatever Obama wants he gets it done legally or not. But all what this argument is, is a conspiracy theory like the illuminati. you can't prove it but I can't disprove it.
No, YOU don't get it. The government keeps a lot of things from us. There is a chance that America was behind 9/11 and there IS a cure for cancer, the government don't like it though.
You don't get it. People can contest that Edward Snowden did the wrong or right thing. But no one can say that releasing the cure for cancer is wrong. That person would be called a hero. And the rewards would be immense.
The government tells lies all the time - like how organic will never feed the population, and that the fluoride in your water is helping you. They poison us.
and you think people in the government are that immoral? There would have been a whistleblower.
Scientists are run by other people like the government, and they want money. Most.... scientists wouldn't be aware of the cure
I refuse to believe this conspiracy. There would have been a whistleblower by now. not all scientists just want money. They chose that field to save people. Most people would break down knowing they are withholding something that would save lives and allowing many people to die.
No, they are saying that they have the cure but the cure doesn't save you. Also it is cheaper for them to get this cure than the actual real cure, people believe that this the thing that will save them but its not
They could sell the cure cure for an insane amount, plus be branded heroes.
But arn't scientist spending money to try to find a cure? Don't you think that they would make a lot more money by actually selling the cure? I'm pretty sure that since everyone in this world is obsessed with money that if they did have a cure they would start selling it at a price way above the hospitalizing.
Yeah, that sounds about right. Oh, and it's not hid from the government. It IS the government.
The world is unfairly run by money. I hate it.
Well if anything, it's not the doctors but the drug companies who make medicine so expensive. And why do they do that? Because they know they can charge insane prices, and people will still buy in the same quantity at the same frequency because it is a necessary good rather than a luxury good. Ethically, perhaps there is something wrong with this but it falls in line with classic economic theory
are you ducking kidding me????
you could sell the drug like a million dollars a pill and have customers lining up
There would be more money in a cure than there currently is in the sickness itself.
who says it is kept from the government ever think it's just kept from us? There is a stronger cure than what they're giving they give you a possibility but you know how "researchers" give people experiments or whatever to some people and it helps them out of it quicker and other times it doesn't add up and i know how people react to things like that differently but when you keep seeing people you love die from the same reason the next did puzzle pieces seem to fall into place there was and actor who had stage 4 lung cancer but lived farther longer than most well more than most yet he died but they way he was making it and seemed to be okay compared to others who has it. Ever think about money he was an actor a good one at that our system is more about the money than the patients health. My opinion and thoughts will not change about this situation.
This would be extremely illegal and couldn't be kept from the government easily. Also, a community called "doctors" isn't the best way to explain this. Researchers, if the answer was found, would be making more money. Companies would have to buy the formulas once released. Then, it would be given to those with cancer for even more money. Cancer is extremely complex, it's possible for each and every one of us to be struck with, some more than others. This is an extremely juvenile idea.