Donald Trump for president. Capitalism is great

April 20, 2016, 10:53 pm

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The debate "Donald Trump for president. Capitalism is great" was started by dalton7532 on April 20, 2016, 10:53 pm. 24 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 41 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

bigB posted 5 arguments, dalton7532 posted 9 arguments to the agreers part.
RyanWakefield posted 3 arguments, Razor posted 1 argument, QueenQuirks posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.

ProudAmerican888, bigB, fadi, dalton7532, ImissReagan, rob5998, kaitchunn, ototoxic, oscar90000 and 15 visitors agree.
RyanWakefield, docA7med, sickboyblonde, openparachute, wildcat79, AhmadDanialBosan, Pugsly, sagitario, Iran1998, Razor, Nemiroff, hasantahsin, QueenQuirks, Band_Nerd_24, codyray16, SwaggerPoptart, laurafuna and 24 visitors disagree.

dalton7532
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That site is complete bias. Politico is complete and udder bias. When you say Cruz and Hillary are more honest than Trump, you know there is something wrong. Most of what they rate "lies" are not even lies.
I do not know why you get your information from such a biased site.

3 years, 6 months ago

Neither, in america if you vote you can be pulled for jury duty, if not you don't. I don't select between 2 evils. at the end of the day the lesser of 2 evils is still evil.

3 years, 6 months ago

I have no idea what you mean. which candidate is planning on getting rid if jury duty?

3 years, 6 months ago

I really don't like any candidates running, I'm just going to vote for not doing jury duty.

3 years, 6 months ago

just because you repeat a lie over and over again doesn't make it true. and his 91% lie rate means that you really shouldn't believe anything he says.

3 years, 6 months ago
dalton7532
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You vote for Bernie. He will economically and financially destroy this country. Then, I will laugh when that happens because of him, and I will say I told you so.
TrumpU may have or might been a scam. Let the courts decide and I will make my judgment.
I told you he has changed his mind on somethings. There is nothing wrong with that. I have no problem with Hillary changing her mind, but I do have a problem with her lying about it.
Trump is a populist, and Bernie is a populist too. They care about America. To say otherwise is ignorant. Trump is not somepower hungry human, like Hillary or Cruz. He honestly wants to fix America. He has been saying it for years
-MakeAmericaGreatAgain

3 years, 6 months ago

are you insane? he doesn't give a shit about anyone. he has been sued lots of times for ripping people off. he is a quintessential cut throat capitalist. he would sell your children's organs for meat if he thought it would get him what he wants.

to make matters worse he is a master of stagecraft. he can lie to your face and then say the exact opposite a month later and people just ignore it. I mean 91% of the things he says are lies. how could you possibly trust him?
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html

3 years, 6 months ago
QueenQuirks
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and trust me he doesn't care. if he did he wouldn't have scammed people in the pass. he changes his mind and direction like a gold fish. gone bankrupt plenty of times and you can tell he's that guy you can't trust

3 years, 6 months ago
QueenQuirks
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He will gain power. lol.

3 years, 6 months ago

Donald Trump wants to make America great again. As a business man, he did business. Throughout time he has always been dissatisfied of how America was run. He changes his mind when he learns new things, everybody does. There is nothing wrong with that. If you ever listen to him, he has a motive. America has been run by a bunch idiots, and it screws the American people. I will fix that and make america great again.
He honestly cares about America and the American people. He will gain absolutely nothing from being president. He has 4-10 billion dollars, a family, and anything he can possibly want. He even said he would work for free.

3 years, 6 months ago

Donald Trump doesn't care about any of you. He has no good motive. As a person if anyone personally trusted I would laugh at there face and tell them they'll get what's coming to them because he doesn't care about any of you. He changes his mind a lot and has scammed a lot of Americans in the past. You can justify his actions all you want but he's still the same guy in the past. The only difference is he wants to become presidant.

3 years, 6 months ago

Are you talking to me? Socialism is an economic system in which the community is regulated as a whole. I know what capitalism is too
Capitalism is an economic system in which industry owners battle for profit and trade is privitized. I know this stuff off hand.

3 years, 6 months ago
RANDOMEDIA
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Not to mention the fact that Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist, which is completely different from pretty much all other branches of Socialism.

3 years, 6 months ago
RANDOMEDIA
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Okay, Socialism isn't a bad thing, it is a different way of governing. Based on your argument, you clearly no nothing on the subject. If you want to prove me wrong, then tell me, what is Socialism? 5$ says you have no idea.

3 years, 6 months ago

While I do not support Trump, people really over exaggerate how bad he is. When Obama was elected, people were like "Oh no, America is going to die and I'm moving to Canada!" and while he definitely wasn't a good president, he wasn't nearly as bad as people made him out to be. And nobody actually moved to Canada. The same applies to Trump.

And what does "Capitalism is great" have anything to do with Trump? You know that no matter who is elected, America was, is, and probably always will be Capitalistic.

3 years, 6 months ago
dalton7532
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Donald Trump does not have a terrible view of woman. He has great respect for women. Sure he has said some rude things to individuals who happen to be women, but that does not make him sexist. He does not hate women nor does he believe they should be in the kitchen. He put his daughter in charge of his business and hired many women for top positions.

3 years, 6 months ago

Not Donald Trump for president because he has a terrible view of woman. He also can't choose a party. He has switched parties five times! Not that I advocate Bernie Sanders who is an out right socialist! And lets not even start talking about Hillary...
What we need is better candidates, they all suck!

3 years, 6 months ago

the workers make the products and are paid a wage for the products. The product is then sold to another worker for more than the original either recurved for it, meaning money is constantly going from workers to business owners.

3 years, 7 months ago
dalton7532
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Right on!

3 years, 7 months ago

The poor cannot get poorer from capitalism, because the beauty of it is that you can move to another, cheaper seller, or not be made to buy anything. Without capitalism, cheap generic drugs necessary to survive would not exist for some! Capitalism creates competition, driving prices down, and development of better versions or new technologies up. See, there will be a wealth inequality, but wealth is not bad, and wealth is not material, it is immaterial and continuously created with a new or more efficient way of doing things. Social programs may be able to help the poor, but money by itself is only a relief.

3 years, 7 months ago
dalton7532
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Capitalism benefits everyone. Poverty is not a direct cause of capitalism. Where do you get that from?

3 years, 7 months ago
dalton7532
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Capitalism is an economic system in which industry owners try to gain profit. Yes, the rich do get richer. That is the whole point of capitalism, and it causes more drive for industry owners to make better things so people will buy it so the rich and poor business owners get more money. However, the poor getting poorer is not because of capitalism. I would like to know where you got that from.

3 years, 7 months ago
RyanWakefield
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capitalism is bad because the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Sure the economic system is better for the economy, and a few people can become something from nothing, but generally speaking, unless a fair taxation system is in place, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

3 years, 7 months ago

* Oh yeah the writers I mentioned

-Daron. Acemoglu- economist at MIT

- Thierry Verdier - Paris school of Economics

- James Robinson- economist at Harvard University

3 years, 7 months ago

Are you talking about the United States?

If you look at per capita then Monaco would be number 1. Sweden would be number 12 and the United States would be number 14. Writers Daron Acemoglu, James Robinson, and Thierry Verdier have compared America's system to European system of "capitalism" and said the American system is better for the world; United States system creates financial incentives for innovation, higher levels of competition (the United States files more patents per capita than any other country). Basically you can come from nothing and make yourself into something.

You can look at China. A Communist nation adopting a capitalistic economy. China partially privatized most of its industry after integrating Hong Kong in the 90s (a rich and thriving capitalistic economy). They had to to boast international trade, or lose trade if China didn't. In 2015 China surpassed the United States in boasting almost 600 billionaires. China has become extremely wealthy do to privatizing industry and market reforms. Capitalism breeds wealth.

Under Capitalism people have the chance to make something of themselves if they work for it. What about the people who grew up dirt poor and lived off of government food stamps for years and grew tired of being poor so they changed it? Are those people bad or greedy? I don't understand why capitalism is bad, I haven't heard a valid argument. Could you expand on why you think capitalism is bad?

3 years, 7 months ago

capitalism's great until you realise you have a few billionaires and millions in poverty

3 years, 7 months ago

on a side note we could potentially have the hottest first lady in the world!

3 years, 7 months ago

yes, capitalism is the best in my opinion. From an economic stand point Trump is the best candidate. I admire the fact he is not afraid to say what's on his mind, however if he shoots his mouth off it could be detrimental

3 years, 7 months ago

Capitalism is the best economic system and Trump is the best choice for president.

3 years, 7 months ago

You got to give him credit, people are mad and he tapped into it. The way it's looking it's between him and Hillary, and I think he will defeat Hillary. He could be our next president

3 years, 7 months ago
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