Donald Trump is better than Hillary Clinton

June 2, 2016, 7:20 pm

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The debate "Donald Trump is better than Hillary Clinton" was started by dalton7532 on June 2, 2016, 7:20 pm. 13 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 19 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

RogueAmerican posted 9 arguments to the agreers part.
The_Debater posted 1 argument, Nemiroff posted 8 arguments, historybuff posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

dalton7532, RogueAmerican, Austin7779, sabrina, NyKai777, joey and 7 visitors agree.
The_Debater, Nemiroff, Asma, PrincessTia18, historybuff, JLabang123, joplinnocera, moneybagboyz, shuhel_2005 and 10 visitors disagree.

Nemiroff
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I'm not saying we should prosecute him, but I don't think he qualifies for president. There are many ways to conduct business, and more successful people have used far less scumbaggery to get much farther than trump.

3 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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It is what it is. We should expect nothing different. All people act in self-interest, and his pursuit of it was quite successful. Also one takes more initiative to accomplish.

3 years, 3 months ago

so you are proud of trump for taking advantage of the system at other peoples expense, and angry at lazy people on welfare for taking advantage of the system at other peoples expense? you realize how rediculous that is right?

3 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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That is a false assumption since Republicans do not strive to maintain our tax structure. We hate it as much as welfare.

3 years, 3 months ago
Nemiroff
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Trump doesn't even pay taxes on many his properties. he's more of a politician than a businessman, kissing a** to gain an unfair (but legal) advantage. and he still loses.

if gaining the system is an admired quality what was up with all the welfare hate you repubs always spout? Commend them for outsmarting you.

3 years, 3 months ago
Nemiroff
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they have aided him greatly, I'm sure his life is very good.

and your acting like he actually built it all up from scratch. it's a lot easier to become a billionaire when you had many millions head start. money helps to make money, not needing to dance for banks and investors is also a huge benefit. many other businessmen have started from much less and built empires that dwarf his, while not doing half the scumbag shit trump has done.

what he did was legal, rather than reward him even more, we need to change some stupid laws.

3 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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I would like to say that at the time he was a businessman. And a very good one at that. His only focus was to make money, and within the system established, he thrived. His capabilities to use our economic system should aid him, not hinder him since he did a great job in his specific role.

3 years, 3 months ago
Nemiroff
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"The purpose of business is to make money. I wont deny that he made himself into a billionaire; that he was extremely successful."

he's not running for a business job, he's running for a leadership job. So you don't think that moral character and trustworthiness are not important qualities when someone is running to get access to nuclear codes?

maybe he can be head of a department, or best of all (had he not pissed off the majority of relevant nations) secretary of state where his completely uncanny negotiation skills would be put to perfect use. but not the presidency! are you crazy?

he would have made an excellent secretary of state. top pick prior to comments.

3 years, 3 months ago

Im also glad you seem to discount oversight. It isn't as if they were established to combat the misgivings of bureaucrats.

3 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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The purpose of business is to make money. I wont deny that he made himself into a billionaire; that he was extremely successful.

I'm glad to see that you are so relieved to dismiss her allegations. Didnt cover anything up? She deleted her emails. Yeah she released what she said she had, but to we take her at her word and forget she deleted everything? National secrets and what became are quite trivial and it is inconsequential if they are thrown around. Call it what you want, but it reeks of incompetence.

And getting Iran to the table. She created ample ground for a perfect Iranian deal under Kerry. That bargaining can never benefit the US because their aim is to destroy us and Israel as seen by their death chants. Im proud to say that our deal is superficial and allows for investigations of absolutely nothing.

Overall, her past aside, she is rather qualified. But that is the key; it matters not what she had done, but only she has done them.

3 years, 3 months ago

and yall can shit on hillarys record all you want, but trumps consistency in screwing everyone he came in contact with can only be defended with denial.

3 years, 3 months ago

Benghazi is a non issue, every prior recent secretary of state had private emails.

and please don't bring up tabloid garbage like her "hitman"

3 years, 3 months ago
Nemiroff
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speaking of benghazi, how long are the repubs gonna continue to waste tax payer dollars investigating this? how long ago did this happen? how incompetent are the Republicans investigating this?

she didn't cover up anything and she isn't responsible directly for the security of every embassy. it's the middle freaking east, it's not the most stable part of the world.

"Management of the State Department during which time we saw a 50 percent increase in exports to China, aggressive work on climate (particularly at Copenhagen), and the effort to create and implement the toughest sanctions ever on Iran?helping to lead us to the agreement currently on the table"

Hillary Clinton was the principal author of the sanction on Iran that brought them to the table.

among many others

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-debate-hillary-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-213157

3 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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Yes she has a wonderful record. She covered up the assassination of an ambassador, is facing indictment for her use of emails, don't even get started on her time in Bills office. She sure knows how to get bad attention.

3 years, 3 months ago
Nemiroff
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there is a difference. they are applying for a job right now. they are supposed to be promoting themselves and pandering to their constituents. the big question is their performance after elections.

Hillary has a great record in actual office (not campaigning.) Trump has a record of backing away from deals and screwing his partners for personal profit. Clinton is self serving on the campaign trail in order to get elected, and she serves the people while in office. Trump only serves himself, 100% of the time and that alone should disqualify him from public office.

3 years, 3 months ago

I am British, from a foreighners point of view, Trump is a deeply troubling candidate. His polocy of banning all Muslims from the USA is racist and his statement "I'll bring back waterboarding and worse" is insane.

If Trump is elected, he risked distancing America from the international community. The Special Relationship between Britain and America would certainly suffer and America risks loosing the USA a lot of influence.

3 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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I think we could both agree that the two are self-promoting. Hillary has swayed very far in order to combat the emergence of Bernie. But we also have the Constitution to protect us from extreme harm. We know Hillary will loosen it; however, Trump claims to adhere to the letter of it.

3 years, 3 months ago

Hilary is more of the same. not good. trump might sell your children's organs to zoos for meat. no one has any idea what he will do. that is a very very bad thing. you can't elect someone who campaigns on the exact opposite of things they publicly believed a few years ago. or someone who claims to hate nominees running on the money of billionaires, getting the nomination and then immediately start feeding at the corporate trough. he doesn't stand for anything but himself. no one should trust a person like that.

3 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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I agree with not knowing what he will do, but Hillary too is a liar and manipulates the public constantly. I don't know what to get with Trump, but I hate what I'll get with Hillary

3 years, 3 months ago

it is bad either way. but trump is by far the worse candidate because no one has any idea what he will do. he lies so often that what he says has no meaning.

3 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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Yeah nobody wins this election.

3 years, 3 months ago

trump makes me laugh too. his candidacy is one big joke. the fact that anyone takes him seriously is sad.

3 years, 3 months ago

I dont like Trump but he can make me smile. Hillary is just too ridiculous for her record to be considered.

3 years, 3 months ago

Trump is not better than Hilary in any way. now that he has begun feed on corporate trough like everyone else he has lost his only edge. his lies and betrayals make him the worst candidate.

3 years, 3 months ago
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