The debate "Drinking age should be raised to 30" was started by
August 22, 2016, 3:05 pm.
7 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 8 people are on the disagree side.
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It looks like most people are against to this statement.
thereal posted 8 arguments, dalton7532 posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
thereal, dalton7532, jack_tim_45, Zuhayr and 3 visitors agree.
TheProudWeirdo, north and 6 visitors disagree.
blue ray is correct. we are talking about whether or not increasing the drinking age would curb binge drinking. the evidence says it won't. it is illegal now. making it more illegal won't change that. college students aren't allowed to do it now and that is where the problem is.
your topic doesn't even address the actual issue. it is a standard American response to an complicated issue, crack down on it. it doesn't work. decades of attempts have shown it is completely ineffective. but you aren't interested in that. you just want to feel morally righteous rather than actually working toward a solution.
instead we need strict laws to enforce.
@thereal buff said banning a "illegal" item wont solve problems.
well by that retarded logic, all drugs should be legalised because if someone wants to take it, theyll take it regardless of legal repurcussions. shit wait, i forgot youre a liberal so you are stupid enough to want all deugs legalised...my bad.
in what way would it contradict my argument?
drinking is fun. but you don't have to do it to excess to have fun. teaching that to our children is the way to curb binge drinking. you will not accomplish anything by trying to ban them from from drinking at all.
People do not get wasted because they feel obligated to do so because of its legality. They do it because it is fun! That is one thing you got wrong. Have you ever compared a European to an American and how they act? If so, it may totally contradict your arguement.
European countries have a much lower drinking age. they also have much lower mortality rates from alcohol. this is because their teens can drink openly earlier. they learn how to drink with restraint. when they go off to college or parties they don't feel as much need to binge.
telling university students they can't drink at all is just foolish. that is prohibition. it didn't work before and it won't work now. it will just ensure that they always drink in private where no one can supervise them. it will only encourage more binge drinking.
I'm sure alot of people crashed and killed people because they were eating while driving. and alot of people die from obesity.
I was just about to comment on your strategy on making alcohol more accessible legally to prevent certain outcomes, but you will not do the same for guns. I was trying to have an intellectually honest debate, so I decided not to bring it up.
When has a hamburger consumer killed others because negligence driven by hamburgerism? Some hamburgers may damage you, but they do become so addicting the addiction ends up killing people who do not eat hamburgers!
Alcohol damages your body and brain and ruins lives. I think it is complete idiocy trying to prevent alcoholism among teens by lowering the age in which you can get alcohol.
I think people should have a beer, but at the same time I think alcoholism is a big problem. Youth are consumed by alcohol and drugs, when they are still in their developing years. Maybe raising the age requirement isn't such a bad idea?
dalton even by the low standard I judge your arguments by that is stupid. the age at which you can drink and a grade have nothing in common. increasing or decreasing that age is not lowering standards.
think of it like this, as of tomorrow anyone who eats a hamburger should severely punished. hamburgers are bad for you so they should be illegal. if you have a single bite you should go to prison for 20 years. there is no reason to lower America's standards by allowing anyone to have one.
that is what your argument sounds like. something is bad for you so take it away from people. coming from a man who believes that a man should have the right to enough firepower to gun down an entire school, saying the government shouldn't let people have a beer because it's too dangerous is extremely funny.
We should not lower the standards just so more people will not get arrested. That is like lowering the passing grade to 50 so more people will not fail. It is stupidity at its finest.
Alcohol is a major problem in American society, and thousands have died because of it. People die because of it because it is addicting regardless of its legality. You want people to get off of it? Create a culture where it is not acceptable.
statistics show that lowering the age actually helps, not increasing it. creating a culture where drinking is taboo only makes teens want to binge more. introducing teens ti drinking in moderation significantly reduces binge drinking.
American teens drink less alcohol than European teens do but die from drinking much more frequently. The main reason for this is your higher drinking age. increasing it further will only make the problem worse.
so your idea is to do things that have been proven to not work. forgive me for knowing that your plan won't work, that doesn't make me stupid.
trying to clamp down on it doesn't work. prohibition proved that, the war on drugs has been proving that for decades.
Criminalizing it won't stop people from doing it, it just creates criminals out of otherwise law abiding citizens.
increasing the legal age will have absolutely no positive effect on the numbers of binge drinkers. binge drinkers generally do it in private. making it illegal for them to drink in public for longer only increases the odds of them drinking to the point of causing serious health problems since they will do all their drinking without supervision.
the punishment for binge drinking also needs to be very serious. public bingers need to be locked up overnight and shamed.
historybluff, i know your brain is really stupid but just because theyre binge drinking now doesnt mean we should allow it to continue. i dont think you understand the concept. the whole idea is to implement similar advertisement bans on alcohol as there are with cigarettes, discourage it heavily in schools and slowly keep raising the age limit over a period of time till ******s like you stop being addicted to it. the only reason people are binge drinking underage is because the same people who create these laws are drinking themselves on national tv. so why shouldnt they do as well? the leaders and schools need to set an example. if the pres smoked on live tv he would be given heavy criticism. that same treatment needs to be given to alcohol. pathetic hypocrites.
oh look, blue ray the desperate attention whore returns. hmm, i thought you were quitting? what happened? just f*** of lmao, show that you have some integrity.
reducing an age limit will only fuel illegal activities. @thereal you dint understand anything right?
on top of all that, increasing the age won't help. the worst of the binge drinking in America is done by those who can't legally drink already. if having it be illegal for them to drink now hasn't helped, why would increasing the age requirement help? increasing the age only exacerbated the problem.
teens will drink heavily before going out because they can't get a drink in public.
they binge drink in private, difficult to supervise places because what they are doing isn't legal.
the personal attacks aren't helping your argument. it only makes you look childish.
you want to treat people like children by saying you're to young to do something. if they are too young to be accountable for their actions then they are too young to be accountable for their actions. you cannot pick and choose. saying they should be an adult at 18 but can't drink for another 12 years doesn't make sense. they are an adult or they aren't. you can't hold back an adult's rights because you don't think they are mature.
retarded liberal. wants coke to be banned but alcohol to be legal. youre so stupid its sad.
i never said i supported guns. your assumptions are retarded. you have no arguement to support your side thats why youre repeating the same sentence again and again like a retard. being immature with alcohol is the default standard today. if american people werent so immature with it it wouldnt be the third largest preventable cause of death would it? water your brain.
my argument isn't that the drinking age should be a specific age. my argument is that if you want to treat people like children because they can't control themselves, then make then legally children.
I thought Republicans were all about freedom? you want a 20 year old to be able to buy enough firepower to kill hundreds of people but he isn't mature enough to have a beer.
a 20 year old is mature enough to be executed for his crimes because he is an adult, but he isn't mature enough to have a drink.
your reasoning is extremely strange.
it does make sense you retard. drinking is unnecessary and doesnt benefit society. it harms society more than it "benefits". Its a fact that american people in there 20s are too immature to drink otherwise these issues would be significant. if you got your tiny head out of your liberal a** you would see this.
so someone is mature enough to vote for their leader, get the death penalty, or be sent off to some god forsaken country to die for their country. but they aren't mature enough to drink. that makes no sense.
either raise the age of majority to 30 so that they are still seen by law as not yet an adult or treat them like an adult.
well its the third largest preventable cause of death in the usa, gives liver cancer, causes anti social behaviour, causes increased accidents, reduces decision making ability. you know, small things like that.
why would anyone think that?