The debate "Even if life is meaningless the meaning of life is to find ones own meaning" was started by
June 18, 2019, 1:06 am.
25 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 21 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
Allirix posted 2 arguments, sakshi posted 2 arguments to the agreers part.
Allirix, swara, sakshi, babymarie, thuy, nikhil, Communistguy and 18 visitors agree.
MADHURA, sssk, fireball4thewin, Rodolfo, MrStealyogrill, Repent_4_The_End_Is_Near and 15 visitors disagree.
Well. ..I can agree to you
The origin of life comes down to what the individual believes, and the origin of life could be the very thing that changes the meaning. If you believe in a God, you also most likely believe that he or she created the universe, Earth, and life. Therefore, your meaning could be to serve God, or have God give you your meaning as they are the ones to give you life.
For people who believe in other orgins of the universe such as myself, you tend to follow the more scientific route rather than the religious one. The evidence points to the Big Bang being the event that created Earth. However if the Big Bang or any other major scientific event occurred, was there a brain behind it? Scientifically no, meaning that life was a miracle no less unintentional.
If this is true, then this means life truly has no meaning and is up to you to define. This is a matter of philosophy though, not objectivity. These opinions are very loosely based on fact but rather ones own perception of the world.
to find the meaning if life is a tough job..everyone has a different way to see life as for instance for some it's a imagination or fantasy. .For some it's karma which comes back..and a lot. .so we can't say that we can exactly find its meaning ...In my point of way..thankyou. ...
But, I'm saying that evolution does not determine our meaning. Our path through evolution has effected our intuition (that we should reproduce/protect the species) but that doesn't make it our meaning.
Evolution has handed us our primary purpose of gene survival. We can fail at passing down our specific genes but still live a fulfilled life because group selection has also given us the drive to help and protect those that share our genes.
Group selection has created societies that cooperate and self-sacrifice because that improves the chances of the genes themselves surviving. That's our family and kin, the group we identify with, but it can also be all of humanity and the environment that enables gene survival. Whatever you can empathise with that drives you to help and protect others becomes your personal meaning that is the same as the greater purpose of ensuring gene survival.
If evolution is all there is defining our meaning then that's the same as saying we have no meaning right? Life is ultimately meaningless if there's no greater spirit giving us meaning? And how can the parts, individual lives, have meaning if the whole, life and humanity itself, does not? That's why I said it's begging the question to say "If life is meaningless then there's no individual meaning". You can't argue individual life has meaning if life itself is completely void of meaning. That's why I interpreted the meaningless as a divine spirit giving us meaning.
Says who? Firstly, if propagating (or reproducing) is a meaning of life, then does that mean that anyone who doesn't has failed at life? I would argue not.
But, more importantly, if there is no intrinsic meaning to life (which I think you agree with) then there is no meaning to life. Only personal meaning which is very different than a "meaning of life." It then becomes a "meaning of my life." And, that meaning will probably change several times
If the premise is "life is meaningless" then life will be meaningless no matter what, it's begging the question. But, if there's no predetermined transcendent spiritual meaning to life that doesn't mean life is meaningless, there's just no greater being defining it.
The first purpose of life is to propogate. Our genes exist because our ancestors made us. More importantly, group evolution has favoured cooperative and caring minds who are concerned with well-being of their group, especially their kin. So most of our meaning comes from identifying our kin/group, genuinely connecting to and understanding them, and improving their lives as much as possible.
Religion, philosophy, spirituality, social norms, rituals, symbols, etc, guide us in reaching those three goals of life.
If life is meaningless (which I believe it is), then finding a personal meaning still isn't the meaning of life.
But even if you find it, it's still a meaning only to you, it's not a real meaning and it's temporary, so it's also objectively worthless. But if something is objectively worthless and meaningful to you, than it's okay if it's your life meaning. Basically, the answer is yes, but just to pass your time.