The debate "Global warming funding to supposedly save the earth should be cut and given to space exploration" was started by
September 22, 2015, 2:02 pm.
21 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 45 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
Alex posted 14 arguments, sloanstar1000 posted 3 arguments, AstroSpace posted 4 arguments, drumman22 posted 1 argument, Gandalf posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
PsychDave posted 10 arguments, William posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.
AstroSpace, Alex, Thecorrector1004, fabby, drumman22, SirJakeR, athinus, carltonlasy, Gandalf, Regalgeek, rob5998 and 10 visitors agree.
PsychDave, Sosocratese, William, Thawene, xbulletwithbutterflywingsx, invincible_01, Neaa, pajrc1234, Yuki_Amayane, ariel22, steady_current, J_Blue, abdulhadi, Jared_Lee, M and 30 visitors disagree.
Oh no..... a Astroass post and yet again to no surprise like all his troll bait posts, it's just a post to get the attention he never had in real life lol.....To own this clown like all the others, firstly we do not need to keep exploring space and more IMPORTANTLY need to worry about our world. This is a fact that cannot be denied. Also it's a fact global warming is happening even if it's not noticeable to some people. It's more of an issue than space exploration and there is only so much you can do regardless in space as we don't currently have the technology to really explore(especially other planets which are light years away) and I highly doubt we will even have technology to do such any time soon. Focus on our planet first and foremost.
Both are probably hopeless but since we don't have a cutting proof that global warming is caused mainly by human activity we can't know if there are rational means to stop it (maybe it is a natural cycle that occurs in earth in which every couple of hundred million years the earth shifts from a cold age to a hot age and vice versa).
And since we do know that it is possible to find other earth-like plants, although we don't know the cost and hard work required to make them fit for human habitation, it still seems tge more logical solution because we don't know if the other one is possible at all.
no, but a normal person would have shame that you can't keep your ridiculous and stupid thoughts in your head.
You seriously think I care if you call me racist?
Saying that your posts are "stupid, baseless, uninformed, and or racist", while insulting, is factually accurate. You almost never provide any sort evidence. Your opinions are often very racist. You don't do any background research. All of your posts are based on your heavily biased opinions and anything that should call those biases into question is insulted or ignored. you don't debate, you throw out your opinion and insult those who disagree. At least when we insult you we provide evidence that your opinions are racist, baseless or unfounded.
See, you guys are such little hypocrites. If you attack me personally, it's always "well your topics are really dumb so you deserve it." If I ever retaliate, it's always "OMG YOU'RE SO INCAPABLE OF DEBATING YOU ASSHOLE." It's just surprising that you side with hatred and insults because you disagree with my questions. My debate questions are very educated and actually are debateable. look at Angrybloggers debate questions. Right now. Do it. They're utterly useless, and you're not telling him that his questions suck, are you? Goddamn, you need to stop being so biased to attack only me haha. You've developed a strong grudge against me for not conforming to your idiotic liberal views. You grow emotional and call my debate questions stupid, when they're debated in politics every day! Talk about disrespect, huh? Try to be a decent human for once.
I don't think being that disrespectful is s good thing, but the majority of the topics you start are incredibly stupid, baseless, uninformed, and or racist. there are reasons to be annoyed with you.
It just amazes me that you have to go on every single one of my discussions to disrespect me and use personal attacks. "Tell your mother thanks for the other night." Are you really that unhappy with your life that you have to say things like that? That's sad and I hope things get better for you. There's no need to be angry at me, especially using such juvenile language. Im not really sure as to why your so upset right now, but I hope for the best for you, brother.
I have given you 3 reasons why the temp may get colder instead of warmer, and why global warming from co2 has an unnoticeable effect. prove it is co2, not some crazy hot trend like we have had in the past.
You continue to cycle the same pointless arguments. We have proof that the global temperature is rising. Whether there are areas that still get cold is irrelevant to the overall trend. Could you please move on to actual evidence and stop repeating the same thing over and over?
You do not have a good understanding of fact vs. opinion. Tell me if this is an opinion
the medieval Warm Period was hotter then now. We have had record cold winters. A boat sent to prove ice is melting got frozen, as did the rescue boat.
You argument is that every scientist researching the subject agrees that it is happening, as does the peer reviewed articles they publish. How do you honestly believe your opinion carries more weight?
Your only arugment is co2 makes things hot. I have told you mine. Also no co2 in the medieval Warm Period. and it was way warmer than today.
Winter is still cold and ice still freezes. Neither of these things change the fact that the global temperature is rising, which has been shown consistently. Do you have any other arguments or are you going to just keep repeating these ones?
What makes you believe global warming is fake? Earlier in the debate I linked NASAs report showing that scientific support for it is almost unanimous, meaning that almost every expert of the planet agrees that it is happening. What evidence do you have that shows that all of these people are wrong?
It is hard to argue with pessimism since I have seen people continue to do so many things that we know are bad for them. I don't think the world will end but by adding more heat to weather systems it does cause more extreme weather, meaning there will be more damage from storms and such. Hopefully this financial damage will motivate people to work on fixing the problem.
People who say Global Warming is fake are wrong. we have sped up the process however in our own time lines we won't see the world end for this reason, even if we do or don't do anything to help it. We should spend our time and money on something more useful because no matter what other natural things will cause global warming.
How can this idea support the rich fleeing to space while we are left to die, when there's no threat in the first place? You realize that earth is constantly going through peaks of warm and cold. We actually live in the ice age right now. If global warming is real, it is natural, and we're not doing anything to stop it. Because global warming is fake, money being put towards it is a waste. Even if it was real, what are you going to do? Oh, how about replace every single car on the entire earth with an electric one. Don't forget the nuclear power-plants while you're at it. Do you realize that is on the verge of immposible? Money should go towards living on other planets, not desperately trying to fight nature.
tell me how freezing boats in oceans support global warming. I am interested to find out.
We also have record cold winters. that is not an opinion. In my opinion cold winters do not support warming
You deny that global warming exists based on a boat being frozen. You have said that you doubt CO2 is causing any global warming. Both in direct opposition to scientific evidence.
I have given you facts. what opinion did I give.
Bush did cause some, but under Obama the people on food stamps increased 45%. this is a lot for someone who made things better.
You have given your opinion and random trivia about individual events. I have referenced verifiable scientific evidence and consensus among the experts in the field.
Your continued ignorance about the fact that there was a global recession caused, at least partially, by American greed under George Bush is staggering. Lots of people who lost everything in the recession are on food stamps,recession tends to result in deficit budgets, and recessions rarely result in more and better jobs. Try to keep in mind that Obama faced a recession, he did not cause it.
Look up charts for the medieval Warm Period it is hotter then now. Because it was so long ago we do not know how fast it warmed. I have given you evidence that the climate may be becoming colder.
Good move on Obama for campaigning about something he never addressed instead of a real problem like debt, and spending, or food stamps rates. What would people rather have a pres who supports global warming or one who lowers debt and gets them better jobs.
Ice existing does not prove anything, as I am sure you are intelligent enough to know. Repeatedly bringing up a single coincidence is making your arguments look like you have no stronger evidence to offer.
No one is denying there was warming and cooling before, but we have evidence that it has never happened as rapidly or to the same extent as we are seeing. Again, try to find evidence rather than ignoring inconvenient information and substituting obstinate repetition.
Obama has talked about global warming, the economy, terrorism and every other topic that is important, either good or bad. How does his awareness of a problem indicate that it doesn't exist?
Again, since you don't seem to have understood yet, cold weather does not mean that the average global temperature is not rising. Look at the average temperature since we started tracking it in the late 1800s and coma back with what you find. Saying that because some areas are cold, or because snow still falls the world can't be warming up is absurd.
Please stop basing your arguments on your own opinions and back them up with something. I have demonstrated that the scientific community is nearly unanimous in their agreement that global warming is happening, yet somehow you still believe that you know better. Do you have any real evidence to support your belief, or are you just ignoring evidence because it doesn't say what you want it to?
Everything I have said us fact.
fact 1- a ship sent to prove ice was melting got frozen, so did the rescue ship.
fact 2- we have had warming in the globe before before the industrial revolution (the medieval Warm Period)
fact 3- The Obama administration talked about global warming.
fact 4- We have had record cold winters the past couple years.
Your uninformed opinions and doubts mean absolutely nothing in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence. Almost all scientists agree that it is happening, as I have demonstrated. Why would anyone believe your opinions when they are opposed to those of every person on the planet who is an expert in the field? The science behind why it is happening is not difficult to understand, so denying that CO2 would result in warming demonstrates that you are basing your argument on your own opinions, and on severely biased sources that are more interested in their agenda than in honesty or accuracy.
As has been repeatedly said, temperature changes are normal. The extreme and rapid change we are seeing is not.
And scientists In the boat also observed ice not melting.
let's say you are right and the ice is melting. prove co2 causes it that the massive rate you are saying. What about the medieval Warm Period? this also had ice melting, but no co2.
As I said before warming has happened, may be happening, but I doubt it but co2 is causing no observable warming. We have also had record cold along with record heat. This may be a time of extreme Temps both ways.
the earth as a whole has broken record heat indexes in the past few years and the polar ice caps are melting at an alarming rate. so much that nasa is constantly observing them.
The boat was going to prove the ice was melting because of global warming. Global warming is not supposed to make it colder. Show me evidence that the climate is getting warmer. I have shown you evidence it is not, or even getting cloder. Ships being frozen in ice that is not supposed to be there, and record colds to not point to warming.
Lol, a boat got frozen in ice, therefore global warming isn't happening? Great logic there Alex
The same scientists who when went to prove the ice was melting got their boat frozen in.
How do YOU explain the fact that the scientific community as a whole agrees that it is happening?
how do u explain the record cold winters we had.
"global warming isn't warming the earth any"
I can't believe some of the things I read on here.
Global warming (in this case means co2 is in the air) is not warming the earth any. I am in favor of space exploration for mining cause we are running low on that stuff on earth. Not in favor of finding another planet. Building a dome on Mars or something would be cool though. And I would support that more than "Global warming"
With this question you are insinuating that we have to cut one out to support the other, but..... It is completely possible to do both by cutting out nonsense spending lime "how fast can a f***ing shrimp run underwater". but if I had to pick one to fund it would be global warming just due to the fact that we know we can sustain life here and we are not 100% sure there is another planet that is habitable. I'm sure there is one out there somewhere but by the time we find it, it could be to late here. both are very important but as the old saying goes you can't be progressive at work if your home life is f***ed up...
This is basically advocating that the wealthy move on to another planet and the rest of the population be left to die in the mess that is left behind. How is that a good solution?