God is just something we made

December 27, 2016, 7:32 am

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The debate "God is just something we made" was started by harshita on December 27, 2016, 7:32 am. 17 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 10 people are on the disagree side. People are starting to choose their side. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

Radhikadhawan posted 4 arguments, harshita posted 1 argument, historybuff posted 1 argument, PoliticsAsUsual posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
Radhikadhawan posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

harshita, historybuff, PoliticsAsUsual, Rajat, deezmofonutz, jazzyjay, ProfDoke, makson, FaithofExaltism and 8 visitors agree.
Radhikadhawan, thereal, HellaJeff, roasting4days, Ematio, human and 4 visitors disagree.

PsychDave
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Why are they pointless? Would you say questioning the validity of belief in Odin is pointless?

2 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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He did not create it yet he advocated for it. It takes faith to believe in God and assaults on His very existence are pointless.

2 years, 3 months ago
PsychDave
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I was making a deliberately absurd parallel based on Terry Pratchett's Discworld book series, but there was at one point the idea that the world was on the back of a tortoise in many cultures.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle?wprov=sfla1

2 years, 3 months ago
neveralone
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as a side note. wasn't the tortoise thing popular around the time of Christianity?

2 years, 3 months ago
neveralone
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theirs many solutions to that. religion may be one but it's one of many. there are several ways people go to God. ur two are small ones.w why not?
I know that. like I know u to believe u are right and that could possibly be true but instead of putting definitely yes or no what we all can do is one of two things. say there is a possibility of God. or say we are going to wait till we have the technology to find out for sure if there is or isn't a God. I like my first one since it deals with it immediately. though ur choice.

2 years, 3 months ago
PsychDave
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If someone told you that the world was flat and rode on the backs of 4 elephants which in turn rode on the back of a giant tortoise, would you believe them? Would you try to use reason and logic to convince them that their belief was unreasonable?

If someone told you that God was really a magical bowl of spaghetti that was too far away to see, would you suddenly believe or would you be skeptical? Would more people telling you to believe in His noodley appendages make it more plausible?

I don't feel the need to disprove what I cannot. I do feel that pointing out flawed logic is fair game. I don't need to prove God doesn't exist to justify my reluctance to believe. The burden of proof lies on the person making the positive claim. You say God exists, I say prove it. You cannot, in a good debate, turn around and say "prove he doesn't."

2 years, 3 months ago
PoliticsAsUsual
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and those weren't reasons for religion.... those were 2 things earlier cultures had in common, things religion happened to solve... it's clearly stated as such, why are you comparing yourself to such a statement?! btw, they also through they were worshipping the truth too, just like you.

2 years, 3 months ago
PoliticsAsUsual
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in psych dave's defense, he did not create the topic, and this is a debate app.

should we ban the discussion of God's existence? could we even if we wanted to? would it be right to silence it?

2 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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Except billions of people believe this; not as playful whims but as truth. Why do you feel a meed to disprove what you cannot?

2 years, 3 months ago
PoliticsAsUsual
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all early religions were polytheistic. why did he appear to these people in the former of numerous different gods? why spread confusion and misinformation? why did he not update the people of India and other eastern nations who to this day still believe in multiple gods? did he not realize it would take the followers of jesus millenia to reach those Shores while leaving them to sin and worship idols in ignorance resulting in many innocent damned through no fault of their own.

there are far too many religions that are all far too different for a God to be real. you are none of those because those were describing the origins of religions... your just following dogma established in ignorance by people subject to those reasons... try not to mix up points meant for the past with you in the present. explaining it later takes away from the argument.

2 years, 3 months ago

I am neither of ur reasons for religion.

we are the messengers. also if God started walking around what do u think would happen? I say it would happen like last time with Jesus. the masses fear what they can't understand. look at history for proof. as far as I know it always ends in pain."he appeared in numerous forms creating polytheism first" idk what ur talking about here.

2 years, 3 months ago
neveralone
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look at below statement to rhadi.

2 years, 3 months ago
neveralone
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exactly. we seem them now. a hundred years ago u could not see the atoms that make these words. does that make them any less real? exactly my point. u r saying something doesn't exist. I am saying it could exist and we just can't make the technology to see it.(yet?)

2 years, 3 months ago

I can provide a reason against a belief in god. every culture on earth in every corner believes in some form of god, and none of them agree on what he is, what he calls himself, what he wants, what he teaches, or how many of him there are. the only time people agree on God is when one of them is threatening the other with death.

what all of these cultures have in common are 2 things. 1. a curious population with questions but incapable or unwilling to do the necessary research or 2. a group of elites who need to control a larger group of masses. usually both are universal, and religion solves both.

if there is one God the religions would be much more similar.... why would a universal God who loves all people not show himself with similar messages in other parts of the world? why is it that in many parts of the world, or everywhere originally, he appeared in numerous forms creating polytheism first, before demonizing those worshippers when he appeared only to a lone man in the middle east? (abraham)

this universal inconsistency is a major reason against god.

2 years, 3 months ago

neveralone you seem to be trying to say that if something can't be seen with the naked eye, then believing in it is an act of faith. this is extremely misguided.

we can definitively prove the existence of oxygen and Mars. there are lots of ways of proving something is there with using your eyes. there is no evidence of the existence of God. we can not find any evidence at all to support his/her existence. let alone that your God is the correct interpretation.

2 years, 3 months ago
Radhikadhawan
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I m also bored of it as I said earlier... And I guess all the time it's you and me who r actually debating on this topic.. Coz maybe I m some kind of atheist and you are some God believer... But I must tell you we can see oxygen and also we can see Mars so we have a reason to believe that it is there... But no one has ever seen God.. And about that blind that it does not make any sense at all.. If someone is deaf you cannot say sound doesn't travel at all...

2 years, 3 months ago
neveralone
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u don't see oxygen yet u rely on it. u don't see Mars from here ( without a telescope) yet u know it's there. some things u can't see. u can't see somone conscious but u believe that person to have one. all sight is is what ur eyes tell ur brain. also we arnt even touching on blind people who have to believe in stuff without seeing it every day.it doesn't make it any less real.

2 years, 3 months ago
neveralone
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how do u know He didn't? I'm not here to convert u but if u want I will leave that door open. I am doing this debate to say there is a possibility of God that shouldn't be taken for granted.

2 years, 3 months ago
neveralone
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I wasn't doing that to defend God. I was getting a middle ground so people can stop hating on God. also I have gone over this same argument several times and grow tired of repeating info back and forth just in a dif. form.

2 years, 3 months ago

I m actually bored of this God thing... So many discussions have been created on this simple topic.. And I have given so many arguments.. That I m actually bored of it.. And the proof that God doesn't exist is that no one has ever seen him... We just have imagined him.. That he looks like this or like that... Different religions imagine him in different ways... No one ever has seen God.. This is the proof that he doesn't exist.. Talking philosophical and poetic things is really easy..

2 years, 3 months ago

how do u know that god has made us

2 years, 3 months ago
PsychDave
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If your best argument for His existence is that no one can prove he doesn't, you have a terrible position. I know there are better arguments (watchmaker argument for example) that would better serve your position.

2 years, 3 months ago
PsychDave
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That is because it is impossible to prove something doesn't exist. The same could be said of proving unicorns, leprechauns and the flying spaghetti monster don't exist.

2 years, 3 months ago
neveralone
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nor is there that He does not.

2 years, 3 months ago
RogueAmerican
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Nor against

2 years, 3 months ago

And for that argument thing.. There is no proof that God exists

2 years, 3 months ago

Why do I need to backup it after all.. Just for your pleasure or what.. I will argue only when there is any need.. You get that, moron.. I can't argue with blank space..

2 years, 3 months ago
Blue_ray
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Troll!!!! cant you backup your argument even before saying that you agree.

2 years, 3 months ago

How can we make something that we were made by?

2 years, 3 months ago

I agree

2 years, 3 months ago
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