God is not dead but he is dying

February 25, 2015, 11:57 am

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The debate "God is not dead but he is dying" was started by I_Voyager on February 25, 2015, 11:57 am. 12 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 29 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

I_Voyager posted 4 arguments, MOSKAU posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
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I_Voyager, olilongboat, sickboyblonde, Mr_Anonymous, Superr1fifty, MOSKAU, Iq, taigaaisaka and 4 visitors agree.
Kirito, Haelaeif, llthslvtr, BabyT14, sonaybitch, Hollister_boy, PsychDave, TmlxIss2cool, kennediharris515, ArsonLarson and 19 visitors disagree.

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I'll digress a lack of knowledge of the statistics behind Judiasm. I'd accept the counter argument that this religion is becoming more prominent if it were made.

Otherwise, I don't think the Arab extremism is evidence of its growth in power, but evidence of it's desperation. Islam acts like a beast cornered, and it is cornered because every argument it is making against the west to validate it's supposed truth is slowly being turned away. This same process has already occurred in Christianity, the bible was torn apart by rationalists and only minor bodies can believe in it as literal truth, which was the popular view at the turn of the century. This recreation allows people to "believe in god" and not actually believe in god, and by not passing on a strong tradition to the next generation, faith is fading. My generation, the young generation, believes less than ever before. I'm talking to young right wingers at the moment who refer to the elder right wingers as dinosaurs because of they're holding on to religious ideas, which they believe to be bull-shit.

The same process of criticism is starting to happen to Islam. We've conquered Christian philosophy and it can only exist as a metaphor. His truths are shrinking, like a man whose flesh settles while he bleeds out. And conceptually Islam is struck like that beast during the hunt. It's got enough energy and momentum left to lash out. But there won't be a resurgence of it's belief that will persist and grow over the next century. The quran will be picked apart and Muslims will have to stop regarding the quran as literal truth and regard it metaphorically. When that happens, it'll go the way of Christianity.

Other religions do not seem successful. In Toronto 25% of the population regard themselves as non-religious. God is dying. Not dead, but dying.

5 years, 3 months ago

He, she, it, whatever. It's a convenience to say "he". If it doesn't exist than it doesn't matter what I call her, he's dying the same death into fiction either way.

5 years, 3 months ago

It is customary in North America to refer to God in the masculine both because in the English language there isn't really a pronoun that is gender neutral (they can be used, but when referring to deities that could compound the confusion by raising the possibility that multiple deities are being referred to) and because Christian belief is that God is masculine (father and son) .

5 years, 3 months ago

How do you know, God is man?

5 years, 3 months ago

For that to be true, you would have to show some evidence that religion is dying. In a time when people are concerned with religious extremism, that seems like a difficult thing to do. You would also need to overcome the evidence of belief from religious groups that do not seem to be loosing faith (those fighting gay marriage, creationists, etc). There is a trend away from religion, but that doesn't mean it is dying. Judaism is still around, and people must have predicted it's death about 2000 years ago.

5 years, 3 months ago

To the latter argument - both the prior concept (the, undefined) and the innumerable posterior concepts (the, defined innumerably). Every/all god is wounded and dying a different death, fading into myth and literature. Every god will become like Marvel's Thor, an echo of a false truth once held in high regard.

5 years, 3 months ago

In the former case you are right. But abstraction can be healthy; god is the figure we've taken to rule our minds. Santa is the figure we've taken to rule our Christmasses. Neither are real, but god is dying and santa is not.

5 years, 3 months ago

but which God are we discussing

5 years, 3 months ago

The Abrahamic God never existed, thus he is neither living nor dead, merely an abstract, and foolhardy concept.

5 years, 3 months ago
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