The debate "Hate speech is still free speech" was started by
January 6, 2018, 7:52 pm.
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So the bad guys start the word battle, get angry at the retort, and take it to the next level while conveniently forgetting and pretending they didn't start it.
Hate speech is such a problem because it is returned in kind.The person or group initiating the trash talk are always the ones who claim once that same medicine is given back.They are notorious for pretending that they aren't the initiators of fighting words.
Hate speech is offending, insulting someone by expressing yourself!
And free speech is just expressing yourself... whether it's liked or disliked by someone, doesn't matter.
But the question is, how do we feel when someone criticizes or insults us? Do we think that it's their right....their freedom of speech? Is it okay with us?
If not then there is some distinction between the two howsoever subtle it maybe but it's there!!
also, this is lost in many over simplified arguments but free speech only protects you from government retribution. it does nothing to protect you from the equally protected free speech of others. shaming someone for their speech is not a violation of their speech, it's a perfectly legal use of someone else's free speech which you can shame back for, but you can't demand they stop....
Also private institutions like universities (or any job site) does not need to let everyone speak or protect their speech. go to work and start cursing at everyone tomorrow and see just how protected your speech is. you definitely won't go to jail... but you won't have that job either.
there are different levels of hate. there is a fine line between expressing hate, and expressing threat, such as Mexicans are rapists and Jews will not replace us, which inspire people to violence against these groups.
ordinary expressions of hate are protected, but once your speech turns into something like a call to arms, it's no longer legal.
sorry for assuming but how do you feel regarding the expression of speech by BLM, compared to the speech of charlettsville white supremacists? do you see one as a bunch of terrorists thugs with defensive slogans like "hands up don't shoot" while the other are "good americans" spreading aggressive fear propaganda?
Truthfully I just enjoy debating in general even if it means I'm completely wrong or sometimes I tend to try and defend what I'm actually against.
But I define hate speech as saying things like "The KKK can f*** off" or "trasngenderism is a mental illness like gender dysphoria" these are real statements. Many people say we should ban hate speech I'm just saying hate speech is still free speech.
What is the motivation for creating such a topic? is your partisanship so strong that you will defend hate speech in order to take a jab at your counterparts?
What do you define as hate speech?