The debate "Hinduism is the oldest religion" was started by
March 25, 2020, 12:31 pm.
40 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 54 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
agokulakrishna posted 1 argument, jrardin12 posted 7 arguments, Nemiroff posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
jrardin12 posted 11 arguments, Nemiroff posted 14 arguments, rhaegar posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
pavan9062, Wasculder, glenn54, agokulakrishna, sanjit and 35 visitors agree.
akashmeka, kraDTheMerchant, Dazed_Confused, tisya_aaa, Joelm, jrardin12, debater_69, rhaegar, Bandile, tyler0300, Nemiroff and 43 visitors disagree.
Lambs without defect are to be set aside without defects. The lambs are to be slaughtered and the blood applied on the three-sided door frames of their houses. The lamb's blood was God's sign to pass over the house so as not to kill the firstborn. Just as the blood redeems the Hebrews, that's a lot of Christ redeems Christians from sin. The lamb was supposed to be without effect, Christ never sinned. the bones of the Lamb were not to be broken, Christ did not have any of his phone's broken. Anyone who did not have the blood on their door frame would die, so with Christ anyone who does not have the blood applied on their hearts well die eternally. in both instances it was an Act of Faith.
Which is the reason why the Passover does not need to be continued, because the Messiah is our Passover.
Yes, it was to remember when they left Egypt.
But the sybolism is heavy with what the Messiah was to do in delivering Israel from something worse than Egypt, sin.
The Passover is rich with references of Christ.
do you even know what the jewish passover celebrates?
Passover points to the Messiah who would be the Lamb of God that would take away the sins of the world.
I am saying that at least Daniel and his friends were waiting for the Messiah that would deliver them from sin and put their faith in that.
what does passover or keeping kosher have to do with the messiah?
are you saying all the jews of Daniels time were christians despite them considering themselves Jews?
There was a purpose to all those celebrations which pointed to the coming Messiah. Now that the Messiah has come, there is no need for all the religious celebrations. So they were needed before Christ to point to Christ. Now that Christ has come there is no need for all the feasts.
if they are so identical, why do christians not celebrate any of the jewish holidays, including the high holy days, and the holiest holiday, yom kippur? its almost like they are totally different...
so your saying that all the jews of daniels time were christians? even tho they considered themselves jews, kept jewish holidays, customs, kosher, etc.
I already explained to you what Christ means and what their view of Christ was or should have been (like Daniel's was).
or were all jews in the time of daniel christians?
Daniel was not from the time of jesus. in the time of Daniel, was Daniel a jew?
And one day, the Book of Revelation tells us, all the Jews will finally accept Jesus Christ.
Not true. Daniel believed the Messiah would be a suffering Savior who would come to save the world from sin. Jews at the time of Christ rejected Jesus as their Messiah because they were looking for a conquering king who would save them from Rome. Daniel put his faith in a sacrifical Messiah to save him eternally from sin. Daniel's prophecies tell exactly how many years it would be when the Messiah would come. Interestingly it lined up exactly the years Jesus came.
he practiced the same Judaism all Jews of his day practiced. are you saying all the Jews were actually Christians?
what is the difference between hinduism and religions? all teach how one should live, and hinduism certainly has more then a fair share of gods.
buddhism seems more qualified to be called a way of life, as it fundamentallyworships a man who learned to live perfectly. but i cant see hinduism in the same mundane way. it's actually quite fantastical.
Daniel was a Jew by birth, but he did not practice today's Judaism. His beliefs lined up with Christianity. The Hebrew word for Christianity would be Messianity.
Hinduism is a way of living and not a religion though all religions under the Indian subcontinent come under "Hinduism"
according to the bible, daniel considered himself a jew.
For sure Daniel was. Remember Christ means Messiah in Greek. Daniel prophecies about the Messiah (the Christ) and even gave the exact time the Christ would come.
so tell me, how many christians existed during the days of babylon?
Yes, but you can find which one is true, it isn't too hard.
wow, that sounds like something all religious people say about their religions' story. congradulations.
And one of those stories is the truth. The sons of Noah might have still been alive, or at least their children. They would have placed their faith in the Messiah's work of death to forgive sins through repentance.
all religions theologies start at the beginning of time.
if i create a story about a hero from before the big bang. that doesnt mean my story was in existence before the big bang.
1. i know what you were saying, and its it's ridiculous. how many christians were there during the time of the tower of babel? 0.
2. you were responding to my post to someone else discussing my disagreement with his claims about hinduism and pre hindu vedic faiths. you declared "of course you disagree," and then went off on something totally irrelevant to anything i was saying. you should really try actually reading what others are saying.
@Neimroff, I was saying that Hinduism started around the time of the Tower of Bable. Since Christ was promised to come in Genesis 3 to save us from sin and because Christ is part of the Trinity and appeared even I. the Old Testament in what we call a cristofeny, then obviously Christianity, started at the beginning because Christ Himself created everything as Hebrews points out. Jesus can be found throughout the OT.
@Allirix, I didn't say it was. I said Hinduism started around that time.
i was clearly disagreeing with the claim about hinduism and wasnt even responding to you. i was responding to agokulakrishna. try reading.
also, your talking absolute nonsense. christianity during the tower of babel. lmao.
The Tower of Bable was not the start of Christianity...
@Neimroff, of course you disagree. However, since the Bible is true, Hinduism is not the oldest, but happened after the Tower of Bable episode.
i disagree with that evidence. the roots of hinduism are very ancient, but i dont think those various vedic faiths can be called hinduism until the hindu synthesis around 500 BCE.
it may very well be the oldest still practiced religion, but religions likely go back tens of thousands of years if not more. we are using writing to date our religions, but religions almost certainly predate writing.
babylon and egypt go back very far and their religions, althought currently dead, likely predate hinduism. and those religions also likely had presynthesis roots in the various tribes of that region before coming together.
changing the topic to "oldest still practiced religion" may make it more true.
The oldest Book of the Bible is actually Job, which was written before Abraham, but God's plan to send Christ was in effect since Genesis 3 or 4.
@Neimroff, If the Bible is true, which it is, Christ is part of the Trinity which according to the Bible is eternal. Indeed, John and Hebrews, as well as Isaiah Christ is mentioned as being eternal.
Till the date ,from the researches and datas collected from ancient literature, artifacts ..etc,the proofs completely stand along with Hinduism being the most oldest.
by biblical christianity do you mean judaism?
"christ"ianity didnt start until christ.
and Judaism doesnt start in genesis 1. it was delivered to abraham, not adam.
If the Bible is true, which it is, then Biblical Christianity is the oldest religon.