The debate "Humans are just a species of animal." was started by
March 6, 2015, 1:49 am.
53 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 25 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
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we are quite literally just advanced mammals, theres no debate upon that
Only difference between animals and people is that people can reason...
what about feral children who grow up with an animal like a wolf or a sheep? are they animal or human? the animal has been able to raise and communicate with the child so therefor the child is animal like and humans would not be able to do this if they were not animal. religion doesn't define whether someone is human or not. when did god say that you can only believe in religion if you are a human. he never said animals couldn't. also to the person who said we arent animals were mammals you do realise a mammal is a animal and so therefore your contradicting yourself. because an elephant is a mammal does that make the elephant non animal? so what I'm trying to say is that animals are human like so we must be like them. we are animals. besides If we aren't animals what are? because we can either be a fungi? a plant? or a state of matter?
I'm not convinced that humans having religion is a good thing at all, or an enlightened state, and I suspect animals are better off without ages of warfare, strife, fear mongering, torture, exodus, chosen people, suicidal passion, self-depreciation, doublethink and authoritarianism over the opinions presented in works of fiction believed as fact. But some birds can count and many animals can determine abstract uses for objects to use as tools to achieve a goal. Apes are known to enjoy using pianos and can find note relationships without human thought structures to help. Some animals can cooperate and share. Humans sole ability seems to be deliberate, syntactic language. I'm not convinced either that this is something other than a result of our evolutionary circunstances, with a biological source that could be reproduced if understood genetically in other animals. We've already identified some of those genes, implanted them into mice and observed an increase in intelligence. We are animals, and nothing within us escapes the fact of how life works. We are made of all the same stuff and on a fundamental level operate in the same way. Our genes are just arranged differently.
Good science fiction explores the possibilities of reality. We are on the verge of many breakthroughs. Stop holding your eyes shut in fear and hope for the magic world of faith. Look upon the works of man and understand all material events are unified by the natural reality and see the infinite spectrum of possibilities there-in.
well the human form we take is a species of this planet, humans are advanced mammals when you're talking about creatures of this earth, but that is just part of what we are
dolphins can get drunk and high so can humans
I would like to see you back up your claims with research. You often say `No, your facts aren`t true` without any effort given to supporting your view in like, any way.
Here`s my data:
Actually there is plenty of research to show that indeed dolphins do not have the ability to do that. And that indeed animals do not have religion. This isn't Planet of the Apes.
So you are basing your opinion about humans being classified as animals on your assumption that animals don't have religion? How do you know? I'm not saying they do but if that is the arbitrary line in the sand you are choosing to draw, how do you know that pets don't see us as their God? How do you know dolphins don't tell tales of the shadows of death (fishing ships) to get their young to behave? Until you can understand animals, all you are basing your belief in your own superiority on an assumption you have absolutely no way to back up.
animals may not understand our intellect but it doesn't mean we don't understand there's? we are an animal! if we aren't an animal what are we a plant? a fungi?
Animals can't understand religion either. They can't be Atheist, Christian or Muslim, they don't have our intellect and they never will.
Kirito, how does the word just insult you? You are just human. That doesn't change what you have or could accomplish and doesn't change who you are. Being called JUST a species of animal isn't an insult, and it shouldn't make you feel insecure.
Why does thinking about thinking make us not animals? We are just animals with an advanced cognition. In so many ways every human feature exists in an animal somewhere. We build? So do beavers. They can take a desert and make it fertile. We have names for each other? Wild dolphins have common names each other know for each other and they cry out the names of their loved ones when captured. We have fashion? Apes have fashion, they've been observed suddenly taking on trends like wearing a piece of grass in their ear. We make tools? Too many animals tools. Some apes, birds and dolphins use tools to accomplish a variety of goals. We love and care, form social bonds and work together to accomplish tasks? Wolves do that. We get along with diverse populations? Cats and dogs do that.
And really we don't know the limits of some animal cognition. I'm sure many of the animals I've lived with think and try to understand a circumstance. I've seen my dog Quetzal furrow her brow in confusion and bark in frustration because she can't figure the situation out. And I've seen my cat conclude that the animals on the TV aren't real and go from pacing nervously in front of the TV to sitting peacefully on the couch watching the pray animals running around. Heck, my cat comes when called without any training.
Animals are as diverse and wonderful as humans. It's just a prejudice that we think we are SO far beyond them. We just have the ability to break our thoughts down into complex language and use those languages to form thought structures. And there's no reason why we'll be the only animals to achieve this goal in the history of life. When those animals evolve to our level, they will be persons, but not humans; they will be animals.
Guys, we are literally in the animal domain. Its a fact, not an opinion.
At times an animal will reject food if it deems it not edible, desires a different food, or even if it is ill.
It all depends on how you define an animal, the real thing that differentiate us from animals is our ability to think freely and don't be bound by our body but by our mind. If a animal is hungry and is presented with food it will eat the food, but humans have the ability to resist the biological urge (maybe because of being on a diet) and don't eat the food if their mind tells them so
I also feel a bit hurt for someone trying to lable humans as JUST a species of animal. Don't you? The fact that you are JUST an animal to me seems like one can never acomplish anything in life because they are JUST an animal. I believe that we all are civilized HUMAN beings, that can achieve more things than we can imagine in our life time.
I never said we were animals to begin with. We may be mammals but that does not make us animals, it is just a similarity. Just like how cellery and granny smith apples may be both food and green; but it does not make the cellery a fruit.
In what fashion have we adapted that we are no longer animals? We have advanced tools, but they do not change the fact that people are mammals, meaning we are animals.
I apologize for not using the correct term.
We have not EVOLVED nothing has EVOLVED we have ADAPTED. There is a difference between humans and animals, psychologicaly we are the only ones capable of thinking of thought. In other words we can think about thinking.
it is true that humans are a species of animals. however, there is certainly some distinction between humans and animals and if not then how come only the humans have evolved ?
I am curious who disagreed and why. I can't think of anything that really differentiates us from animals. We know there are animals that use tools, and even make their own tools. We know at least some animals feel emotions similar to us. And we know that some animals are able to think and problem solve (monkeys, dolphins, cuddle fish). So what sets people apart as no longer being animals?