I don't understand why the guns shouldn't be banned... to me its obvious they need to go

January 11, 2016, 1:00 pm

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The debate "I don't understand why the guns shouldn't be banned... to me its obvious they need to go" was started by danielle on January 11, 2016, 1:00 pm. 16 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 19 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

danielle posted 2 arguments, peacock posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
Sosocratese posted 2 arguments, AngryBlogger posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

danielle, Monster, swp16, Dhruv, wmd, Socrates, TheMartian, xjackts and 8 visitors agree.
Sosocratese, AngryBlogger, multishooterftw, Alex, Arrow10777, Burnin, ReadyToBegin, Talks_N_Rants, meherandit, Firplius, bcdunn7, franciscotrejo and 7 visitors disagree.

peacock
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there is only one way to prevent ppl using their guns illegally...is to legislated the gun law.

3 years, 11 months ago

illegal usage of gun should be punishable. but legally it is a self defending weapon n now a days u use gun 4 bad things it can be tracked back

3 years, 11 months ago
PsychDave
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There are other ways of dealing with bears and wildlife, but they are only effective to a point. As long as there is no danger to the public, live traps can be used to relocate the animal. This is often done when bears find campgrounds to prevent them from associating people with food (garbage and people feeding them).

If there is a public danger or if the animal is relocated and finds its way back, often shooting the animal is the safest thing for those in the community.

With dangers to livestock, there isn't usually the same effort put into humane trapping since the farmer would have to pay for it and it is quite expensive with no guarantee that it would solve the problem. If you gave a farmer the choice between paying several hundred dollars (minimum) to relocate a large animal and it might come back, or a few dollars to shoot it and guarantee that his livestock would be safe, it is usually not a hard decision. Some communities will help pay to relocate them, but not all.

If you are curious, there is some information by the Canadian wildlife federation here about black bear relocation.
http://cwf-fcf.org/en/discover-wildlife/resources/faq/you-asked-for-it/relocating-black-bears.html?referrer=https://www.google.ca/

3 years, 11 months ago

I'd have to track it down but I'm pretty sure that the statistics say that a gun in your home is far more likely go harm a family member than an intruder.

3 years, 11 months ago

i live in hong kong and i feel unsafe that if i have a gun in my home!!!

3 years, 11 months ago

my account needs to go because I asked a question? I'm not from America so I wanted to know the arguements for guns, for us in the UK its very easy for us to say gun laws are stupid and go on about our low gun crime statistics without actually knowing anything about why guns may be wanted? that's why I asked it.

however I do think that gun laws in America need to be stricter, I just don't understand why someone living in the middle of the city would need a gun. I get the whole bear/wolf thing, but surely this isnt necessary in large towns and cities, and if bears are a problem then isn't there some sort of anti-bear systems that can be put in place rather than shooting?? shooting should be a last a resort!

3 years, 11 months ago
Sosocratese
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Terrorism isn't the reason we should regulate guns. In the past 10 years we've had less than 100 Americans die due to extremist violence. However, we have had 350,000 gun related deaths in that same time frame. This seems to be a strong indicator that guns are falling into the hands of irresponsible individuals.

I'm not advocating for the banning of guns, but I would argue for a regulation of guns. Are you against even regulation?

3 years, 11 months ago
PsychDave
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Oh, I missed responding to the fact that you think someone's account "needs to go" because they disagree with you. This is a debate app. If you want somewhere people will always agree with you, you have come to the wrong place. This entire app is a forum for people who disagree to discuss their viewpoints.

3 years, 11 months ago
PsychDave
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I will try to go through your argument point by point since there is so much wrong with it that it becomes hard to decide where to begin.

The bad effects from marijuana are similar to alcohol in that it affects judgement and ability. Guns are a slightly different matter. To equate them is flawed and pointless.

Companies used to make money selling cocaine and morphine for teething babies. No matter how much they made, it was still not a good idea. Saying profits should prevent responsible government is a ridiculous stance to take.

How does regulating guns to prevent killings "let the terrorists win?" That sounds an awful lot like you are letting the media scare you with the boogie man of terrorists. Stop giving in to fear and panic, that is just letting more people die.

The black market is also a ridiculous argument to make since by definition it would have far less guns available if guns were harder to come by and riskier to transport. If guns cost $100 now on the black market a gang with $1000 could buy 10. If you banned all guns, the black market prices would go up. That means the gang has fewer guns. There is a black market for human trafficking, does that mean you believe slavery should be legal? Black markets have always and will always exist. That should not be a determining factor.

3 years, 11 months ago

Your account needs to go. The media does a good job scaring the public into thinking something is more bad than it seems. I remember when weed was legal and then became illegal cause of the newspapers and stuff scaring parents. Now we see that weed has lots of positive uses. You just gotta accept the bad with the good sometimes and it would be too late now to ban guns and none of these companies that make them will stop because there is too much money to be made. Also giving into fear and panic is just allowing the terrorist to win and that includes the media trying to scare you and make you give up your rights as an American and just think of all the black markets that would be created.

3 years, 11 months ago

in North America we have alot bigger animals to worry about. but there isn't an animal alive that you need an assault rifle to take down.

3 years, 11 months ago

I thought these would be the arguements put forward! I completely understand them, just wanted to see if there was any other reason for having them?

in the UK the most dangerous animal is probs a fox (unless you count the beast on Dartmoor or loch ness)

3 years, 11 months ago

Regulated, yes. Banned, no.

I live in the mountains and would feel a lot less safe not having a firearm at my disposal. We have bears, lions, and coyotes in our yard all the time. We also have dogs. Thankfully I've never had to shoot a lion, beat or coyote, but I would hate to have one of my dogs taken because I couldn't scare one off. We have scared a lot of wild life off by just discharging a shotgun into the hillside.

We also don't have a police department. We are strictly under the county sheriff, so response times are longer. I'm not a fan of knowing that a response will take 20 minutes (our districts standard response time) without the ability to intervene myself.

With all that being said, I'm completely in favor of regulations.

3 years, 11 months ago

There are valid uses for guns. Hunting is one example. Another is protection from wild animals in rural settings (wolves hunt cattle). Guns do not need to be completely banned, just controlled.

3 years, 11 months ago
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