The debate "If Donald Trump isn't a Russian asset then he impersonates one very well" was started by
January 15, 2019, 9:49 am.
19 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 15 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
historybuff posted 3 arguments, Nemiroff posted 5 arguments to the agreers part.
Willyis posted 1 argument, killer posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
historybuff, Nemiroff, Soph25161818, dazzasanta420 and 15 visitors agree.
Alex, FiteNite, Willyis, killer and 11 visitors disagree.
I still don't see how he is a Russian Asset.
Even if Trump wants to Disband NATO, it only made you speculate that he is a Russian Asset. And when it comes down to it. Europe isn't paying At least 2? of what there supposed to be paying on military. And North America is paying 4.3?
As for U.S troops engaging gun fire with Soviets. That Should at least tell you that he isn't a Russian Asset sense Trump is the one that's head of the Military. otherwise if he even acts like a Russian Asset. U.S troops wouldn't have done that.
As For the Hillary Investigation. That actually lasted about a year. From 2015 to 2016. Unless there is more to it then that. And Usually an investigation is up to two years.
As For Trumps meetings with Putin. Considering Russia is a world power country. And I believe that U.S and Russia still don't like each other. It would be better to have Trump have meetings with Putin then not. Private or not. He can have those private talks. he should not have to reveal everything.
once again, theres a difference between saying someone IS a Russian asset, and saying some is ACTING LIKE a Russian asset...
also, examples of isolated, inadequate actions dont negate big moves. exchanging isolated fire with minimal to no damage doesnt equal his moves on sanctions and NATO. your measuring it like 1 for 1, that's called a false equivalency.
what do you think is the average length of investigations of high level officials? how long was Hillary investigated? decades?
Uhhh no. Those three posts don't prove he's a Russian asset. From What I read. Nothing actually is proven that he is a Russian Asset.
Even if you are right. How long has the FBI been investigating this? What evidence have they found?
And Just to prove that he is not a Russian Asset. The U.S Military has Engaged Gun fire with the Soviets multiple times. this was published Nov 26 2018. This when Trump was still president right?
here's the link: And Do some Studying??.
also people have priorities IRL, so be patient and dont assume not responding immediately means there is no response coming.
it's all in the first 3 posts.
OK then. Tell me.
How does he act like a Russian Asset?
he didn't say he WAS a Russian asset, he said that even if he isnt, he is ACTING like one.
this wasnt a statement of conviction but a statment of suspicion and criticism. your complaint doesnt make sense if you would reread the original assertion.
so how can you say. "you haven't read any posts." while Willy here actually asked a lagitamit question that you cant even prove.
They don't prove he's a Russian asset, while. Why haven't they? no significant Prof supports those claims.
the previous posts already answered your question before you asked. do you have any responses to what buff wrote?
what makes him a Russian asset?
Add to that that he undermines america's institutions (Justice Department, the courts, the Intelligence services), praises Putin at every opportunity, his family makes tons of money from russians and they rely on Russian loans for their businesses (no western bank will go anywhere near them because they don't pay their bills).
Consider for a moment what would happen if a Russian asset managed to become US president. What would they do? In my mind they would:
1) Undermine NATO / Disband NATO / get america to withdraw from NATO
2) fight to prevent any sanctions on Russia / Russian Oligarchs and try to repeal existing sanctions
3) Withdraw american troops and support in Syria to cede the area to Russian influence
Trump has either done or spoken in favor of all of these things. I can't imagine what more he could do in Russia's favor at the expense of America's interests.
Over the weekend 2 concerning stories emerged.
1) the FBI was forced to open an investigate into whether Trump is an asset of the Russian government either wittingly or unwittingly.
2) Trump has met with Putin privately 5 times and in each case he refuses to allow any Americans (other than a translator) to be present. In one case he even took the translators notes of the meeting. No one is the US government knows what Trump was doing in these meetings.