If God's real then the devil is

January 3, 2017, 10:15 pm

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The debate "If God's real then the devil is" was started by neveralone on January 3, 2017, 10:15 pm. 34 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 6 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

neveralone posted 9 arguments, PoliticsAsUsual posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
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neveralone
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only the Trinity and angels and fallen angels. the closest I would say to demigods would be prophets but their power came from God. they were also all just people.

2 years, 5 months ago
PsychDave
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It's not actually all that far from Christian dogma. God is the supreme deity. After him, there are various angels and demons who would be the rest of the pantheon. Another step down would be saints, who would correspond to the demigods, people whose actions have elevated them. The nomenclature is different, but the effect is that Christians generally believe in a variety supernatural beings.

2 years, 5 months ago
neveralone
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except the Greeks beleive in multiple gods not one.

2 years, 5 months ago
makson
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if you believe in God, you believe in Bible. if you believe in the Bible, Devil is real too. (i am atheist), so
Bible = copied Greece mythology

2 years, 5 months ago

hey rogue If ur reading this what's ur take?

2 years, 8 months ago
neveralone
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interesting idea. but think about this a) the devil is no match to God. he is only a fallen angel b) he fell. we are told he tried to rebel against God and lost. c) he is called the prince of lies. he only does death and deceit.

2 years, 8 months ago
neveralone
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ok I agree it teaches but I believe it's literal too. how can u cast hate out of heaven? it can't even enter

2 years, 8 months ago

in original Christianity, was the devil the embodiment of evil or a servant of God whose JOB it is to test humanity and punish the wicked?

If I remember the tale of Job correctly, the devil was in God's court offering to test Job talking to God in the way a prosecutor talks to a judge rather than as adversaries.

2 years, 8 months ago

God gives us positive energy while devil gives us negative energy. Its pointless to believe in Satan/ Devil. I never heard someone asking, " Do you believe in devil?". Well no asks it to anyone cause we all hate devil.

2 years, 8 months ago

the word myth is not an opinion. all religions have a mythology associated with them. the issue you seem to be having is that Christians started using that word to describe pagan beliefs to try to separate them from their own "true" beliefs. but they are still a mythology.

I wouldn't say he is something to direct your hate to. that's a part of it. but if you see the Bible as being something that uses symbols or metaphors to try to teach lessons, then the devil is not intended to be seen as a literal being with horns and a pitchfork. he is a symbol for evil, corruption and hate.

2 years, 8 months ago
neveralone
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to avoid misunderstandings could u say religion not mythology. I understand ur relating ur opinion but it will go smoother if u say religion. so they believe Satan is just something to point ur hate to? the only problem is I don't hate him. he is evil. but he was an angel. it pains me that he can't be saved even as he attacks me everyday. I mainly mean people who r Christians don't think he is real.

2 years, 8 months ago

I looked up the study. basically the question was is the devil a literal living being or just a symbol of evil. so people who believe that the Bible is not something that should be read literally would see it this way. if the Bible is using stories to try to teach lessons then the devil isn't a person, he is just symbol of evil in the world.

most religions include some form of devil or evil spirits in their mythology. it is important to have something to blame for bad things happening. therefore it is certainly possible to be a Christian and disagree with parts of the mythology such as the devil.

2 years, 8 months ago
neveralone
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http://themostimportantnews.com/archives/nearly-60-percent-of-all-american-christians-do-not-believe-the-devil-is-real
when I first came upon it it was a poll but here is a site.

2 years, 8 months ago

could you please provide a link to where you got that statistic from. I don't seem to see it when I search.

2 years, 8 months ago
neveralone
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from ur point if view that's fine but look below(sorry would of posted earlier but had to drive. ) 60? of American Christians don't believe in him

2 years, 8 months ago

ok a while back I was searching Christian percentages and apparently 60 percent of American Christians don't believe in the Devil.could someone explain

2 years, 8 months ago

presumably, but that's like saying if Odin is real so is Thor. there is no evidence either of them exist so it's not a particularly fruitful discussion.

2 years, 8 months ago
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