The debate "If it had the right direction feminism could still make a lot of good change and be useful" was started by
November 21, 2018, 2:36 pm.
11 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 10 people are on the disagree side.
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It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
Brynn posted 4 arguments, Debater23 posted 1 argument to the agreers part.
Brynn, Debater23, TJ, byniched, Coriander and 6 visitors agree.
Jakellutis, Dushonjj2 and 8 visitors disagree.
the men who hate feminists are generally immature idiots, with serious mommy issues, who like memes way too much. Just go with it. It's clearly right. There's no supurior gender. There is only idiots.
there are certainly men within feminism just like there were Jews in the civil rights movement. however those Jews in the 60s were fighting for black rights, not Jewish rights. I've heard many women refer to the men in the movement as "allies" because they are supporting them in *their* struggle.
a name defines something. I'm sure having a star wars convention named "animecon" would be weird. there is nothing wrong with feminists standing up for womans rights, so long as they dont obstruct the rights of others.
I do believe that feminism has achieved most if its major goals and could certainly fuse with a mens rights movement.... but I think men should man up and not demand others to fight for them. as a man, I find that to be pathetic. but that fusion would no longer be feminism, it would be something new. and it would require a currently nonexistent mens movement to get going first.
I think you have fallen for hate group trolling holding woman accountable for perceived hypocrisy when the men themselves have done nothing to advance their own priorities, instead trying to shame feminists for their efforts. these are not pro men groups, but anti feminist groups. and an anti people group is a hate group.
Both men and women are a part of the movement? So men and women would fight for everyone? Also if people are so stuck up that they can't get past the name having female qualities that's their own problem.
then the name should be changed from "femin"ism and a new movement should be started. the goal is equality of the sexes. but I dont see why men cant fight for their own rights and have to depend on women to do it.
certainly equality should be the goal, but men need to take some initiative as well instead of relying on others to do their work for them.
Absolutely not. Feminism fights for the equality of men and women. Which means they should be fighting for men's issues as well as women. If their for equality then both genders should be equally important no?
why would feminism focus on men's issues? should black lives matter focus on issues concerning immigration?
they certainly shouldnt oppose mens rights issues, but to actively fight for them... shouldnt that be the goal of mens rights groups?
Hmm good question. Mainstream feminism seems to be becoming quite regressive. It doesn't focus on men's issues that are actual issues. A lot of the radical groups of feminism are getting out of hand.
I don't see anything wrong with the direction of mainstream feminism. can you explain to me:
1. what you believe is the wrong direction of feminism
2. what other changes you think feminism should focus on
I'm a semi-feminist someone come fight me