The debate "Is Australia racist for implementing & enforcing the same Immigration laws that Donald Trump wants" was started by
January 20, 2018, 10:09 pm.
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Slymcfly posted 9 arguments, BrynnY posted 7 arguments, historybuff posted 4 arguments to the disagreers part.
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they show his hypocrisy and talking out of both ends regularly. I think it's the alt news that's only showing you half the story and keeping a really short memory.
alright, if I said I think the majority of Mexicans are rapists, and the next day say I love Mexicans, how does that makes any sense?
trump jumps back and forth between completely contrary positions on an hourly basis. but when someone says something racist, they are racist. even if they contradict themselves later.
Saying the opposite of what you said a few days ago doesn't make anything right. It makes you untrustworthy.
See and that's the problem. He is far too fickle. He says one thing one day and then the complete opposite the next. With no explanation no warning. Also playing the victim? I'm a white female who was born in America. This wouldn't effect me. So I can't play the victim but calling someone out on their racism is just that. Calling them out.
And just the other day, he said he wants immigrants from "EVERYWHERE". That alone should tell you something. But I've heard him say, many times, that most of them are good people. However, there's no way in hell CNN or MSNBC or ABC or NBC or any of them are going to show you that. They're only going to show you the negative things that push their agendas.
And then what? After I show you that, you realize that your entire argument is a straw-man and isn't even real. It doesn't hold water. You can repeat that misspoken, out of context garbage all you want. But just like you with your "ad hominen" BS, that doesn't fly with me.
Dude, if you actually believe the president believes that, then you're living in a 1960s dreamworld, except in present time when people LOVE to be victims. I can find you at least one clip where Trump says VERY CLEARLY that MOST of them are good people, if you'd like.
You don't know one person who believes that? Donald Trump. Because he literally said it... You aren't listening to my arguments and just laughing it off. Ad hominem is a logical fallacy my friend and doesn't work on me. I'm sorry you've been blinded by your will to see no flaws in your president.
so despite the fact that is what he said, you are refusing to acknowledge that is what he meant?
that is pretty much a textbook case of delusional.
Haha man if you actually believe that that's what he was saying, and that that's what his followers got out of it, then I'm sorry. I don't know of one person who actually believes that MOST illegal immigrants from Mexico are violent criminals...
This is precisely why Oprah isn't going to come and save you guys. She sees that she would go from having 90% of the country loving her, to 50% of the country HATING her. And she doesn't know how to handle the bad press. She's always been able to just apologize and move on, and it just sort of slips right off of her. But that isn't how it works in politics. And all of those things in the past that had "slipped" off of her, will also come back all at once. There's no way she can handle that.
That's exactly what he said when talking about Mexican immigrants. He called them a bunch of names then said "some are good people". This implies he thought the majority we're rapists and murderers.
Come on. If you are trying to tell me that he was actually trying to tell the people there and the people listening that the majority of immigrants from Mexico are murderers and rapists, then you and the left side of the aisle are even more gullible and slippery than I had previously thought.
What we're saying is a lie? I literally went to the video footage of that speech and made sure. Giving you the benefit of the doubt. You're twisting his words in your head to make it seem like what he was saying is ok. Also maybe he had a hiccup but he was talking about immigration with an obvious pack of understanding on how it works. So nothing in that section of the speech goes his way.
no, that is part of a larger pattern of racism. if it is one comment, then sure he could have misspoken. but when he regularly says and does racist things, that is not misspeaking.
are you going you going to say "why are we letting in all these people from shit hole countries" isn't racist?
No, what you are saying is a 100% lie. Nobody took it that way accept for people on the left. His followers certainly don't believe that. I don't believe that. We know Trump doesn't believe that. That is called misspeaking. It happens. Especially when you speak publicly on an almost hourly basis and you're under the most insane microscope a politician has ever been under in the history of this country.
He said and I quote "They're rapist's". This is in reference to ALL Mexican immigrants. Afterwards he says he ASSUMES some are good people. Nice strawman.
no he said Mexican immigrants are rapists, and some he assumes are good people.
that isn't the same thing. his implies the majority are rapists. and that is 100% a lie.
He said SOME of the Mexicans coming here are murderers and rapists - which is 100% true.
It is very unclear what Donald Trump wants in terms of anything. He is by far one of the most fickle presidents I have witnessed/studied. During the campaign he wanted a ban and now merit based?
lol that isn't close to what trump said. he said Mexicans are rapists. he said why do let people in from shit hole countries.
that's not pushing for a merit based system, that's pushing for a racist system.
I am actually on Donald Trump's side, and I'm the person who posted this. I was trying to show, that Australia has had a merit-based immigration system for years now, and nobody has ever called them racists for that. But now that Trump wants to do the same, he's a racist...
Australia and Britain are disastrous failed states full of racist cowards that hate guns, merely for existing. Those cowards ban guns so they can beat and physically overwhelm an opponent with sheer numbers, as all cowards who hate a good old fashioned 1on1 showdown are prone to.