Is heaven real. people of all faith can participate in my debate thread

February 19, 2017, 10:14 am

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The debate "Is heaven real. people of all faith can participate in my debate thread" was started by Blue_ray on February 19, 2017, 10:14 am. 27 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 13 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

Najam1 posted 17 arguments, Christian posted 2 arguments, Blu_Ray posted 1 argument, JohnWright posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
makson posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.

Blue_ray, Najam1, Neo_Nazi, thereal, ankit_19, Christian, skeletonbones, Ematio, Blu_Ray, dalton7532, JohnWright, mmjd14, Cjselfie01, The13yearoldconservative and 13 visitors agree.
Yanksxx21, damez, Nemiroff, makson and 9 visitors disagree.

makson
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It's not a soul, it is energy.

1 year, 10 months ago

Evil men hate Paradise because they cant prevent the other men from having beautiful women. They will never go, they only want to stay on the Earth where the beautiful women can be avoided very easily.

1 year, 10 months ago
neveralone
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I disagree. reincarnation would take a soul going from one body to another. why would u do that? there's too many explorers and adventures to want to stay here.

1 year, 10 months ago

Energy can't be created from anything.
Energy can't be destroyed.
Energy can only travel from one thing to another.
That is what we learn in ??.
That is true.
Now we can realise that only reincarnation is correct choice :)

1 year, 10 months ago
Nemiroff
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we've only visited 1 other planet with an unmanned rover. so it being slow can't be helped.

1 year, 11 months ago

Allah is the loving King who has a throne and a footstool.

1 year, 11 months ago
JohnWright
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Your right about not all planets not having life but it's taking a while for us to find any.

1 year, 11 months ago
Nemiroff
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how do you know the other planets don't have life? we just recently touched down on a single planet with a remote control rover, and barely probed the atmospheres of the planets in our own solar system! how do you conclude they are all lifeless?!?

if there is any take away from the vastness of our universe is that if there is no other life, there is no God, since it makes no sense to create anything beyond the galaxy for a single planet of life, OR there is a god, and there is life in at least many of the galaxies.

1 year, 11 months ago

There was this person who had one leg shorter than another. A pastor kept praying for him and his shorter leg grew longer.

1 year, 11 months ago

Somehow,Earth is the only planet to have life out of billions of planets.... doesn't that fact make you shudder..?

It therefore depends on what you belief but the most reasonable belief is that God exists and heaven and hell is out there too.

1 year, 11 months ago

If I were to answer such an interesting question,I would say yes.Reason:-to me it doesn't make sense how we humans can live in a chaotic world without hope and a place to look forward to.

1 year, 11 months ago

heaven is real. it has been proved.

https://googleweblight.com/i?u=https://godshotspot.wordpress.com/2014/07/08/heaven-found/&grqid=5EiuKvTn&hl=en-IN

1 year, 11 months ago
PsychDave
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Because it will reveal that your religious beliefs are based on fraud or because it might convince people to convert and follow your God? I'm not sure which you meant, but I don't understand why you would post that for any of the possibilities.

1 year, 12 months ago
Najam1
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That's why I will be in trouble if I tell to much

1 year, 12 months ago
PsychDave
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Honestly, it depends on the miracles. I have read about many that are either fake, doubtful, or outright absurd (like toast with Jesus' face). I have never witnessed a miracle, nor have I seen any compelling evidence of one. I don't discount them, but since I don't have evidence I don't base my beliefs on them.

That said, testimony can be very unreliable. People used to consider it a miracle when it rained after doing a specific dance. People used to sacrifice animals and other people to pay for divine assistance. People have believed in miracles for thousands of years and have seen them long before modern religions. I don't discount modern testimonies, but I also have trouble with accepting people seeing exactly what they want to see without wondering how much is their perception rather than reality.

If you have any miracles I could look into that might change my mind, I am more than willing to try to keep an open mind. The problem I run into when I try to research is that a lot of sites are too far to one extreme or the other. Some accept all claimed miracles, as well as UFOs, flat earth and other conspiracy theories. That calls their credibility into question. Others Alexis for the sole purpose of debunking miracles. If they have no way of debunking one, they will hardly post it for the world to see. There are really no sites that I have found that look at miracles objectively since in order to be driven to research them, people need to be motivated somehow. So like I said, if you have suggestions I could learn about, 8 am open to it.

1 year, 12 months ago
PsychDave
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I help out various charities and causes, donating both time and money as I am able. Try again, but this time don't assume. You only make yourself look like an ass.

1 year, 12 months ago
Najam1
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and after you die with however much you have in your meager bank account, you will wish you could have given the money to even a fake beggar. The biggest fool dies with more money than he can give away without realizing that you can't purchase a ticket into heaven after you die. You have to make payments steadily throughout life

1 year, 12 months ago

How can you disprove millions of testimonies of miracles?

1 year, 12 months ago
PsychDave
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I'm going to start simply ignoring your religious fanaticism when you babble like that. If you have evidence, great, provide it. If not, you are no different than a beggar on the street with a sign professing his faith. Lots of passion and faith, no reason.

2 years ago
Najam1
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No.
You missed.
My accuracy is almost like Allah's aim.
We are currently living in the realm where men get old, sickly, and even die.
There is another realm quite accessible that all criminal men hate because it doesn't contain the flaws that are here.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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Are you saying that you "refuse to live in the realm where no man ever grows old"? Otherwise I think your argument got away from you and you lost track of what you were trying to say.

2 years ago
Najam1
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We have different values of entertainment. Yours is at the level of the average undereducated, underprivileged, nonmuslim person.
A man of excellence is satisfied with nothing less than eternal sources of entertainment. It's cruel to laugh at the man who refuses to live in the realm where no man ever grows old, but possible.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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My idiotic fool, why would anyone steal the style of a clown. Sure, it gets a laugh, but at the expense of your self respect. I prefer to mock the fool for his actions and words. Sometimes it is entertaining to throw said words back at him, sometimes more so to simply hand him the rope and watch him argue it around his neck. Depends on the situation and my mood.

By the way, thank you for the entertainment.

2 years ago
Najam1
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My insolent child, you can't steal my style. Jealousy is very unbecoming.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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My childish idiot, that still isn't a yes or no to any of those areas. If you want to make an argument, you would need to explain which you feel Jesus is superior to Mohammed at and justify why.

2 years ago
Najam1
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My child.
Some men are stronger in blade to blade sword combat.
Some men are stronger in one-on-one gunfights in gun combat.
Some men are stronger in hand to hand unarmed combat.
That men yes and no with regards to one. an being stronger than the other.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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My childish idiot, you are an idiot. You are blessed enough to have several people here to explain to you how logic and debating works, if only you would apply yourself to learning.

Does that babble imply that yes, Mohammed is weaker than Jesus? You hedge your bets by claiming he could have simply been ordered not to return, and therefore avoided simply answering the question.

2 years ago
Najam1
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My child.
You are a nonmuslim therefore you lack complete mental vision.
In the physical realm we have telescopes, microscopes, and bifocals.
You are at least blessed to have me explain things in this life using the correct view for you.
Overall strength is based upon a collective of the individuals strengths and weaknesses.
That's why you were unable to deduce that though Muhammad rasulallah peace and blessings on him could be too weak, or even ordered not to make the return to Earth instead of Jesus.
Combat strength unanimously goes to Muhammad.
There are many different strengths I could evaluate in both men.
Don't be so insolent my child.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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You think a weightlifting competition is the logical answer? How do you think that makes sense?

Yoj seem to have forgotten that this all started by you saying "The only one strong enough to visit heaven and return is Jesus." You claimed Jesus was the strongest, now you claim you don't know without a test of strength. One of those makes you a liar.

2 years ago
Najam1
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You asked which is stronger. I gave my answer. Your retort is typical of a nonmuslim belligerent in desperate need of Islam.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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OK. You may want to up your medication dosage if you think that is a logical response.

2 years ago
Najam1
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I'll have to watch both in a weightlifting contest and give you the truth.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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That should have read "a yes or no". I apologize for my autocorrect error.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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Again a rambling response without a year or no.

2 years ago
Najam1
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He gets to command Muhammad rasulallahs troops in his absence.
Big deal.
Jesus coming back is better strategic plotting in actuality. Most of the enemy will surrender on sight.
Less bloodshed is always a good thing for the whole of mankind. That's why it's forever frowned upon.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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So is that a yes, a no, or a rambling non-answer?

2 years ago
Najam1
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Jesus didn't get to fight the first time but in his sequel, the Muslims are under his direct command.

2 years ago
PsychDave
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So Jesus was stronger than Mohammed?

2 years ago
Najam1
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You see Jesus lives there. Many criminals live on Earth and they bank on you believing that they have authority to prohibit you from speaking with Jesus in a meeting that they aren't invited to interrupt.

2 years ago

The criminals lie about heaven because they want you to stay in the situation where people get old, sick, die, and there are police to imprison anyone who defies them.
There is too much freedom, and too many beautiful women in Paradise for any wicked man to ever boast of the place

2 years ago

heaven is where God is. our Creator who molded us and whishes the best for us. he will someday come to earth and finish his fight with the devil and make a new earth where heaven and earth coexist. and he will walk with us for eternity. so yes I believe it exist.

2 years ago
Najam1
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The only one strong enough to visit heaven and return is Jesus.
Anyone seen him come back yet?

2 years ago

I would love to visit heaven.

2 years ago

There are lots of fantastic women living there, but nobody evil wants to go because of the subpar women on the Earth.

2 years ago
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