Is stereotyping too often confused as racism

July 13, 2015, 12:11 am

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The debate "Is stereotyping too often confused as racism" was started by ScreamingEagle on July 13, 2015, 12:11 am. 51 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 7 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.

ScreamingEagle posted 2 arguments, arsonfly posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
I_Voyager posted 5 arguments, PsychDave posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

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I_Voyager
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I found my definition first on an online dictionary, so I double checked with Oxford which also contains my definition. It's unlikely that racism is truly only ever a negative stereotype against a people. That might be contextual to our time, like saying a tyrant is someone who brutally rules in dictatorship, when classically a tyrant was just a single man ruling, good or otherwise.

3 years, 11 months ago
I_Voyager
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Yeah, I'm fine with a product being aimed at a culture-group, especially with the aim of building and supporting cultural content. So long as BET isn't like "All black people are our viewers, and our only viewers are black people." Because to refer to, let's say, "black culture" isn't a racist term. Peoples come from places with histories and cultures and those histories and cultures are objectively true. You wouldn't stop saying the term "Egyptian history" because revering to the Egyptian people is racist.

It may be racist though to say the only people who can benefit from a culture, though, are a the people of that culture. To say only Egyptians inherit their cultural legacy would be racism. Which is why I believe we all ought take lessons and interests in numerous human cultures, and regard all cultural legacies as part of the shared human legacy.

3 years, 11 months ago

Voyager:

BET: Black Entertainment Television.

3 years, 11 months ago

I suppose it depends on where you get your definition. There seems to be some variation among at least the online dictionaries. I suppose a definition like that makes us all racist.

3 years, 11 months ago
I_Voyager
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BET?

I'm gonna assume that refers to some group like "Black Energy Tiger" or something. I don't think having groups which cater to a community of people is racist. So long as they're not proclaiming "All black people are defacto part of this group because they're black", then it's fine. Since specifically racism is relating one thing to all of a race.

Then again, I don't know what the acronym stands for so if I knew it, it might change my opinion.

3 years, 11 months ago

so would BET be considered racist? or would be I be considered racist for demanding it get get a new name because I'm offended? not that I am

3 years, 11 months ago

Racism is defined as the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. So whether the stereotype was negative or positive, if it is describing a race as being homogeneous in some way that is not accurate, it is racist.

Not all stereotypes are racially based, but those that are are by definition racist.

3 years, 11 months ago

Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another race. Stereotyping is not racist because not all stereotypes are negative. All Asians are smart, All Hispanics have rhythm, etc. The implication behind the claim that "all black people listen to hip hop" is a racist statement is that hip hop is a bad thing. There is no implied superiority or inferiority in that statement.

3 years, 11 months ago
I_Voyager
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I fundamentally disagree with your definition of racism.

I think it can be argued that "Every hate against a race is an instance of racism."

But it is incorrect if you believe "Every instance of racism is hate against a race."

The correct definition of racism begins "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race."

It is especially important if racism pronounces a negative stereotype. But is not the only instance of racism. If I were to say "Every Asian is excellent at math", it would be racism.

3 years, 11 months ago

Racism is hate against a particular race. So if a white person doesn't like you or won't hire you simply because you're black, that is racism. stereotyping is assuming something about a person because of race, culture, religion,where there from, age, or anything. it doesn't mean you have anything against them. and everybody is guilty of stereotyping but its nothing as bad as racism.

3 years, 11 months ago

Isn't racial stereotyping the very definition of racism?

I didn't think racism necessitates an insult. If I think all black people like rap music, I am concluding that a racial quality produces a stereotyped statement. Defining people by their racial stereotype is the very definition of racism, which is "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

Therefore racism doesn't always conclude some "better than" or "worse than" statement, it merely needs to state "Race X has quality Y, which typically differentiates Race X from other races."

3 years, 11 months ago
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