The debate "Is there a way that Ed. can truly be free. no tax or anything" was started by
February 16, 2017, 1:45 pm.
10 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 5 people are on the disagree side.
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Najam1 posted 2 arguments, Blue_ray posted 4 arguments, neveralone posted 2 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 4 arguments to the disagreers part.
neveralone, Najam1, Blue_ray, human and 6 visitors agree.
Nemiroff and 4 visitors disagree.
excellent choice. the preferred defense of mass murderers throughout history!
and no. cia is international. the gestapo were very much internal. you could draw parallels to the fbi, except they need warrants, answer in courts, and don't make people dissappear at night without trial or evidence.
he didnt murder anyone. His followers did.
In those days, the secret police were the equivalent of CIA. is that wrong to maintain one?
he also murdered millions and employed secret police.
Hitler made education free.
general question to all who wish to tackle it.
I cant make out to whom you are referring big papa.....
was free primary education cheap and easy to set up?
was it worth it?
that's what I'm wondering. maybe when Ed. becomes a top priority it might be free but still get upgraded.
Digitilisation? Maybe once we achieve a particular level of it then education can be made free with use of pre existing courses, but as courses would need upgradation so one time investment would not be a bad idea but it would refute the idea of it being truly free plus doubt solving online and the mechanical conventions would or could be the problems apart from them students can fill in exams to get a certificate of their chosen subject.
Now as college is concerned getting that fully free would be a difficult task, and to be truthful I particularly I don't feel its possible right now, eliminating taxes and filling into truly free definition would be a little impractical for educational institutions. Apart from them a reduction in fees could be a more achievable target.
i meant this mainly for college since people seem to get in such huge debt.
I think you are using different definitions of free. Blue_ray is defining any that are free to the family whose kids are in school as free. Nemirof is pointing out that that there are still costs to this method, they are just spread over the tax payers. That makes it free to use, but not truly free.
People pay taxes. But it depends on what you do. Higher the job, more is the tax. Doctors and buisnessmen dont have to pay taxes. People who are below the poverty line dont have to pay taxes.
American Education system is much better in my opinion.
bigpapa I am not a fan of my country. i dont know much about it. According to wikipedia,
" Education has also been made free for children for 6 to 14 years of age or up to class VIII under the Right of children to free and Compulsory education act 2009"
I guess it benefits the economy. So they teach children for free.
if there are no taxes and some schools are free... who is paying for them?
Teachers in USA fundamental education get a paycheck. The most basic students don't apprentice themselves and pay personally, but they are only teaching basic math and English.
I'm not saying these facilities provided by the government are best. It would have been much better if 90% of the fees of private schools are paid by government. Or say atleast 30% minimum.
In india, the public schools are free. They also include free mid-day meals for children. Facilities are not that high in the free schools.For Public Schools like KV which has a lot of facilities like Air conditioned library, labs, computer labs, assembly hall, pools, etc charge you about 0.5 $/month but it doesnt include any mid-day meals so you have to buy your lunch from the cafetaria.No taxes for education. Private schools like DPS( where i study) charge you upto 800$/month. Thats the difference between private schools and public schools.
Also i've heard that schools in US are free. You dont have to pay fees.
are you going to have volunteer teachers? money is needed in the capitalist system. and even without money, food or other items will simply be currency equivalent.
lower rudimentary education is free, hopefully from your parents.
teachers of specialized professions should be paid by the student or accept apprentices to defer pay.