The debate "Is transgender a mental disorder" was started by
June 27, 2018, 1:18 pm.
13 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 30 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
mlowe posted 1 argument, Notanidiot posted 3 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 4 arguments, SMNR posted 1 argument, luc45 posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
mlowe, Notanidiot, bae_jil_dong, EliConservative, abdulbasit and 8 visitors agree.
Nemiroff, SMNR, Breeanna104, luc45, Andji, Saam, KEITH_RT, johnrdoe and 22 visitors disagree.
Being transgender is a person expressing their gender as the opposite sex, not a mental disorder
personally I think it's quite silly. a) why did this become a big deal and b) who cares if they say dude or girl. it's not like what they call u actually changes u or matters.
indeed, you do have free speech, but so do they. do they not have the same right to demand a certain pronoun as you have to refuse?
the right tries to frame this as censorship and language control, but isn't that just an attempt to silence the free speech of others?
Yea I get what you're saying. I'm just gonna call someone who looks like a dude a dude. I'm gonna call someone who looks like a woman a woman. If they get hurt over me saying they look like a dude then so be it.
Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, transgenderism and gender non-conformity is not. It is a product of culture, one that blurs the lines of biology given surgical procedure and common rhetoric. It can be confusing but generally a harmless social stand point.
i dont think you are representing the issues accurately. there is no obesity movement. obesity is a life threatening disease. what that movement was about was full figured women who are naturally thicker, in a perfectly healthy state. many of them often starve themselves to try to match the "ideal body type" but that was actually unhealthy for them, and the goal was impossible. the same goes for a wide variety of mens shapes that are not just fat.
I'm just going to put it out there, I wouldnt go to left wing sites to look at right wing ideas, but the right wing sites go out of their way to misrepresent and twist left wing ideas into something even a left winger would say "that is retarded". like promoting obesity.
as to transgender, it seems the pronoun is the sticking point. and I think the situation is very important. if the trans person is clearly in a dress and you dont know them, how can you tell you didnt just blatantly insult a manly looking natural woman? if someone politely asks you to please refer to them in a certain way, I dont understand the difficulty. is that the extent of what they are "enforcing" on you? that seems like an insignificant nonissue to me.
also, if someone gets offended by someone calling them sir, and asks politely to not be called sir, but the other guy doubles down on the sir... isn't that kinda a jerk move?
the bathroom issue is more complex, but I feel that if someone goes post op and is willing to chop up his genitalia.... that's some extreme sh*t to just sneak into a toilet. I think op status should determine bathroom use. perverts simply would not sacrifice their penises and it's not like we are planning on putting cops at every bathroom anyway.
I have nothing against them being transgender. If they want to be the opposite gender than by all means do what makes you happy. My problem is when they try to enforce it on everyone else. We don't have to call you what you want to be called. We shouldn't be forced to change our lives because you "feel" like the opposite gender. It's a mental illness and people are glorifying it. You know what gender dysphoria is so I won't need to explain it.
Like the obesity movement. (fat acceptance movement). They we're glorifying unhealthy living styles.
I have absolutely no problem with people having choices. Let them do what makes them happy. Once someone tries to enforce anything on me is when I have a problem.
if there is no issue, then why not let people do what they will?
Specify "address" if you don't mind. Address what to who?
I see, however, how would you address it?
It is and sadly people glorify it.
I would say it's more about being confused and society. much like nemiroff is saying. it's a problem we made.
yes you are right that gender dysmorphia is the actual term specifically pacifically if I would have said that then of course people would have said yes it's a mental disorder so by posing the question to pacifically transgender people it opens the question Up For Debate
transgender is a person, but gender dysphoria may very well be a mental disorder.
I do blame society for this because even tho the desire to be feminine may be due to their hormones, etc, the desire to be female may come from over strict parents repeating what it means to be or not be a man.