The debate "Islam is not peace" was started by
April 4, 2015, 2:08 pm.
11 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 16 people are on the disagree side.
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I_Voyager posted 2 arguments, sickboyblonde posted 4 arguments to the agreers part.
Getmurked posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.
sickboyblonde, Bodaciouslady16, I_Voyager, ArsonLarson, Mastermind, daddyfantastic, Liona, soullesschicken and 3 visitors agree.
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l_voyager that's exactly what I was getting at. My point was that Islam is not peace, however, I don't believe its violence either. The Quran teaches violence. That is a fact, but it also teaches peace. The Quran along with all other religious text is not black or white but grey.
Though the quran does advocate some pretty violent concepts, the most violent muslims are not truly observing Islamic traditions. It's more-so some of the abbhorant behaviour of governments - beheadings and stonings and the like - which are directly quranic. Suicide bombing? No, that's a distortion of the quran by corrupt imams to the mental handicapped.
You can judge some of the cultures by some of those standards, but not by others. You should be judging the nations by the more common behaviors of people.
Furthermore, please consider that Islam is being used as a scapegoat to distract people from the many problems at home. This is definitely true in Israel where the Palestinian people have been oppressed for decades.
Things ain't black and white. It's dark all around, and you can blame or judge nearly every culture for the evils they've committed, and often redeem them (if often only partially) by their better natures.
Mind you, Islam is not very compatible with western tradition as there are directly Islamic rules which run contrary to personal freedom. Freedom is not a consideration of the Quran. "We are all slaves to Allah and we must spend out of what he has provided for us."
I agree that most Muslims aren't bad (duh) I just think that there are a unhealthy number of people that are extremists who kill on a regular basis. Its almost common to flip on the news and hear about a group of Islamic extremists and whatever atrocities they preformed that day. All of my Muslim friends are peaceful people, however I don't believe their Quran teaches peace. There are hundreds of verses that promote violence. ISIS and other Islamic terrorist groups, in my opinion, have a better understanding of the quaran over peaceful Muslims. They follow it literally. I feel like I can judge a culture off of their extremists so long as those extremists are following that culture and everything it teaches effusively... which they are.
what happened in kenya was a disastee, but those were EXTREME muslims. EXTREME. they are linked to isis, and are the bad crop of. the islamic religion. there is so many peace loving muslims, probaly more so than catholics and christians. you cant judge a culture or religiom based off extreme acts of one group
and if you think about it, what were the crusades but catholic oppression?
an updated consensus if you will.
lol I know. I just wanted to see if peoples opinions changed after the recent events in Kenya. and noted.
Haven't you done this one before? Why do it a second time? I see arguments made months or years ago surface on this forum. No need to repeat the same thing over and over again.
Rather than being negative and oppositional against those conversations which you don't agree with - which is sometimes valuable, but not solely valuable - why don't you try asserting some positive claims to advance your side of the conversation?