The debate "Islam should be banned worldwide" was started by
January 9, 2018, 12:39 am.
35 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 117 people are on the disagree side.
That might be enough to see the common perception.
It looks like most people are against to this statement.
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You can't ban a belief of 2 billion followers.
saying Hinduism is 4,000 years old isn't exactly accurate either. my understanding is that it changed alot after after the vedic period. but I'm not exactly an expert on Indian religion so forgive me if I am incorrect.
also, isn't the caste system is integrated into the religion?
but Hinduism is a good example of a religion that evolved and changed over time. it wasn't "created" to do anything, because no one created it. with a religion like Islam you can point to writings from the founder of the religion to say what the point was. you really can't do that with Hinduism.
Mr nemiroff , hinduism was one of the first religions (4000B.C.) and it was created for peace and harmony not for law and order. For law and order they had a separate caste system. And any ways where there is peace and harmony, law and order will automatically follow
imo opinion, if viewed from a mundane perspective, religions were created not for peace and harmony but for law and order before the existence of a state. it was one of our first steps towards civilization. at least organized religion was for this purpose. the original tribal religions were likely just there to answer unanswerable questions.
I certainly don't think they were created for the purpose of violence, but what human tool wasnt eventually misused to that end?
Historybuff there is a difference between the purpose of creation, and the way the people tweaked it to promote extremism and violence. I think you are ambiguos in distinguishing between the two.
The religions were created to instill peace.
The people abused it and used it as propaganda for meaningless violence.
Mr. Nemiroff is absolutely right here
socialism was meant to bring harmony and take care of workers, but in practice it created brutal fascist and authoritarian regimes.
both could he true. religion was created to foster peace, but was abused to justify war by people.
there is a difference between purpose and utilization.
virtually all religions have engaged in significant violence pretty much right from their founding. could you provide an example of a religion that was created to instill peace?
Religion was created to instill peace and harmony, it is just that their nature and intent have changed over the years, but the original motive with which the founders created the religion was to spread peace and harmony in the society
I agree that banning a religion is a terrible idea. short of fighting and destroying every single Muslim country, it is completely impossible.
I don't agree that religion was created to instill peace and harmony. by their very nature they do the opposite of that. countless wars and millions (if not billions) of people have died over disputes related to religion.
I'm also not sure I agree most terrorists are Muslim. terrorism is an effective tactic used by people with few other options. because religious extremeists are a marginal group they often use these tactics. but they've been used by lots of religions, political or military groups who aren't Muslims.
Banning a religion is the worst possible solution to a common brewing problem of terror because that would create many left wing extremists, who would wreak havoc on the planet and then, world war 3 would be fought over socio-religious issues which is absurd because religions were created in the first place to instill peace and harmony in the society, and to establish a civilized and peaceful world order.
Most terrorists are Muslim because of the treatment meted out to them by other religions
and their "agents".
And we know who will mete out the punishment to those who steal from the Almighty. That one owns everything, but some feel the need to steal his attributes and give them to others.
Even in a situation where there are two people, one of them could steal from the other. Bravo, for dancing and distracting from the fact that stealing was not illegal when Adam was without a woman. You are so hell-bent upon declaring your little false god police as the rulers of heaven and Earth that you will sit there and steal the law of theft from the Almighty God himself.
I'm still confused what your point is. Stealing wasn't illegal during Adam and Eve because, according to Christianity, there were only two people: Adam and Eve. There was no one to steal from. These rules are forced on us for a reason which I have explained previously.
Once upon a time there was only one man named Adam.
Adam didn't cut his own umbilical cord because he didn't have one.
Stealing was not illegal, and the 10 commandments didn't exist.
Nowadays, false god police don't need 10 commandments to hold folks at gunpoint.
That's why people worship and obey them instead of the one who actually says "Thou shalt not steal"
And this ties in with your argument, how? Stealing isn't illegal just because someone said so. Again, it's illegal because you just unfairly stole a man's source of income which, in a world ruled by money, he needs to survive. It's morally wrong and religion doesn't determine that.
Do you not understand the concept of plagiarism?
No man can claim stealing is illegal because he says so.
I am being as honest as honest can be.
That man will eventually die, as sure as all governments eventually dissolve except for the one above.
Sentinel islands compliments my argument.
Such places exist to this day where the inhabitants don't obey men, such as you and I have to obey.
They can't comprehend or care about our laws, but universally; even a caterpillar has to obey the law which says he has to build a home out of his own a** before he can fly.
No. Law exists to control people for the benefit or not of others. It's not illegal to rob a store because God said so, it's illegal because by stealing, you are ruining someone's source of income.
Law only exists because of religion, my incorrigible neighbor.
Listen to it, now tell me that rigged reality is not a religion.
Tell me they don't obey the religion of those who have them at gunpoint, whether they actually committed a sin, or disobeyed a bad boy!!!
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I'm confused what your point is supposed tp be Najam
All criminals claim that a false god police having them at gunpoint is the only religion they respect on the planet. If all police simultaneously quit and the others committed suicide, the criminals would as well, because they will have no-one left to worship and obey.
I think keeping true to a religion always results in a belief that all other religions are false. That's how religion works, right?
And how is it a false religion. Because it does not represent you? Or could it be that you believe what your are shown to be the representation of Islam.
What's your evidence?
You could start a war over this and which do you want more peace (at least as it is now) or the banish of a popular religion? On one hand you have an extremely sexist religion that puts men above women. Yet on the other hand thousands of people would get murdered because you want to banish a one religion.
How can the Bible of today be older than the Quran of today?
The Torah is older than the Quran.
how is islam false? there are 4 holy books in the abrahamic religions and when the second book came they said its false. the third one came from a prophet born from a Virgin and they said its false. Now you are saying the last holy book is false. All thede books have the previous books tales and stories wich shows their authenticity. the Quran has been confirmed as authentic years ago due to the fact that without any further reseach or even the knowledge of the other books,it still has the same stuff un them wich infact us impossible for it to contain them. So you see,your argument is weak.Also the bible is 600 years older then the Quran and has been edited and altered for ages.
ban all religions or none, your religion tells you to be equal ;) unless it's the gays ofc
Who the hell are we to ban a religion? Be it Islam or Christianity, what really matters is the belief. Just because a few jerks manage to misinterpret their religious teachings,that doesn't mean that we can generalise people. Otherwise we'll end up contributing to the ongoing hatred.
(cough, cough) Christianity is the biggest killer ever
I am a Christian. Islam is a false religion. We can't ban it. Only show it's falsehoods. Then people will leave behind Islam.
Jesus allows people to be heroes. A true hero reflects the qualities of God.
Lol, "ban hatred and violence"? You can't expunge the evil side of human nature, from humans. Ever. Humans will always be hateful of something and violent about something.
it's the people who are trying to force all humans to proclaim themselves as blacks and whites who need to be banned. I can't make friends with people from exotic places because some false god police try to deport anyone who won't claim that humans are only allowed to be blacks and whites. It's pure 100% evil and done to hide evil behind claiming that you are a black or a white. So the hell-bent and hell-bound fools can sit back and attack anyone in the United States who is from Puerto Rico or Honduras
and let's not forget the guy who shot up a black church to start a race war, abortion clinic stabbings, drive a car into protesters. and that's just America, the extreme right is an issue all over the world, including the supremacists in eastern Europe and the extremists jihadists in the middle East.
let's not forget that all traditional, nationalistic, theocratic ideals are right wing. so is the issue with jihadies their specific religion? Or the general sense of self righteous superiority all right wing nations use to justify bringing us back to a world of war?
if you really want to eliminate hatred and violence in the world, ban the alt and extreme right.
Jesus doesn't get to be the only hero on the block.