The debate "Islam vs Christianity" was started by
May 29, 2017, 8:45 pm.
13 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 8 people are on the disagree side.
People are starting to choose their side.
It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
thereal posted 14 arguments to the agreers part.
neveralone posted 3 arguments to the disagreers part.
thereal and 12 visitors agree.
8 visitors disagree.
funny how u say everyone else runs away but that's how u do ur own debates.
victory?that is a joke in itself. angry? again u don't deserve such an emotion. another pathetic attempt to insult which again failed. what a shocker. this debate isn't even over. u haven't even given a single good point so try again or u can do ur usual and run away.
lmao, my victory aside, you seem very amgry neveralone. And to think you suck your fathers dick with that mouth! calm down hillbilly, its only an online debate lmfao. if you lose, you lose. atleast try to be honourable about it you slimeball!
point? ur about as pointed as a ball. u made no headway in any of ur arguements. go on and runaway like u usually though and prove my points.
haha u say we run away yet that is what u do with every arguement u have. I have countered each and every single one of ur arguement if u can call them that with ease. u have prove nothing. btw u have not made me angry. u are not worth getting angry over. and how exactly have I been timid?
victory? now that's the best joke I have heard from u ever.haha
Mission accomplished I guess, I proved my point and that retard confirmed it without even realising it loool! In a battle of intellect, knowledge is a power and you have no power, neveralone.
If any Christians who are man enough and actually have a decent amount of knowledge on the bible would like to contribute, feel free. Although that is highly unlikely since most christians are like neveralone and dont know anything about their faith, thats why they use ad hominem and run away when someone challenges them. Dalton knew more than the average christian but even he has gone onto opinly so we are left with the empty vessel of anger and timidity that is neveralone.
Lmao guys its official, neveralone has lost again! what a disgrace you are to all Christians and your weak faith but i will happily take this victory so dont worry.
I said he was God's direct son. I was laughing at how ur debates look like a five year old wrote them.
it actually does so if u would like to grow up and debate then u can try and give some counter proof.
this whole thing is sad. I said that to get u to actually read it. but I bet u know the Bible contradicts everything u ever have said and instead try to throw personal insults(which are rather pathetic) to disguise that u know nothing of the Bible.
u can't read a book? it's at the very beginning so surely u can at least get that far.
u haven't gave a single quote so try again.
the only one who runs is u so try again.
u seem to be going hysterical. u haven't given a single quote.
it's quite sad how pathetic ur debates have gotten. u now have only become an annoying fly but utterly meaningless in the debates.
Summary of the conversation so far:
Me: Why do you believe Jesus is God when Jesus said that he isnt? Here are the verses to prove it.
Neveralone: He is God.
Me: Prove it.
Neveralone: Read the Bible.
Neveralone: I just gave you the places hahahaha cant you read? maybe when you lean to read or when youre old enough you will see, hahahahaha *runs out backdoor hysterically*
oh and yes, im sure the kjv has 95% accuracy when it was written 1600 years after jesus preached lmao. you lose, suck it up like a big boy
"I gave u the places. have u lost the ability to read? or are u not old enough to learn that yet?" well if i cant read, why would you post that comment since i apparently wouldnt be able to understand it. unless youre sitting there talking to yourself lmao. Typical Christian with typical shitty knowledge using typical ad hominem as an excuse to run away from a discussin on his religion just like a typical Christian does. As i always say, youre only christian till you actually read the bible. amen.
lmao neveralone, you complete goatf***ing christian, all you did was tell me to f***ing read Genesis which is an ENTIRE BOOK of the bible lmao! the only way you couldve been more vague and retarded is if you said "read the bible for why jesus died for us" lool. And for your information, its not a baseless accusation if you give verses as evidence to support your claim (something you didnt do), you numpty. As i expected neveralone, like all christians, you dont know shit about the bible or christianity thats why you cant back up any of your bullshit claims. after all if you knew anything about the bible, you wouldnt even be christian! youre pretending like its sooo obvious as if youve got the knowledge high ground regarding the bible but really you havent, youre just looking for an excuse to run like all christians do when questioned about their faith. they either run or they burn you at the stake lmao. youre doing the former and i guess im intellectually burning you since i barraged you with biblical quotes to contradict all you belief and you can do nothing about it but whine like a bitch about your imaginary evidences lmao. Its truly sad bwcause i thought maybe this guy is actually going to present knowledge that other christians dont have but no! you run!Grow a pair and defend your religion (even though you know f***-all about it) or admit defeat.
I gave u the places. have u lost the ability to read? or are u not old enough to learn that yet?
well when u learn how to read u can go to those parts and see just how pathetic ur arguement is. unless u want to make more baseless claims. there quite ludicrous and I enjoy laughing at them.
No quotes, no nothing lmfao! Has neveralone finally lost faith? i think youd best convert if your knowledge and faith is that weak.
lmao thats it? you just made a short paragraph of empty, baseless claims? loooool no wonder the christian community is in ruins! you literally disproved nothing that i said. but then again, how could you? its a fact so cant be disproven. well done for proving that your knowledge of your religion is extremely weak amd why so many christians are converting. Take this L.
well my argument just got deleted. basically read Genesis for why Jesus died for us. second God, the holy Spirit and ,Jesus are mentioned throughout the Bible. KJV (the one I read) has a 95 percent accuracy if I remember correctly. the other variations are basically easier to read and understand.
really? you never accused me of insulting anyone? ok then, let me just scroll down and copy and paste the comment you posted since you apparently have dementia.
"we don't despise anyone. yet again u have missed a big point in an attempt to insult someone"
Are you on hallucinogens? Because simply stated, i not once made the claim that Christians and Muslims are fighting. I stated the areas in which they disagree with Muslims. Theres a difference. However i will forgive you, knowing that violence is the cache memory of your apparent brain amd it will be difficult for you to immediately break away from that.
Now that thats been tidied up, onto Christianity. Neveralone, I have a series of questions to ask you which you hopefully will be able to answer without running away.
1) Why do you believe Jesus is God when Jesus explicity said "why do you call me good? nobody is good except God alone". Here, he was clearly saying that only God is good, and Jesus is not good because he is not God. He stated this so that certain numpties dont make that assumption in the future. When Jesus taught his apostles to pray, he told them to say "our father who art in heaven, hallow be thy name" etc. That clearly shows he is distinguishing himself from God and showing that he is NOT God because otherwise he wouldve taught them to say "Dear Jesus" or something along that line. Jesus isnt even God's son since, other than the fact that it would be an impossibility for God to be himself AND his son, it is also stated in the Bible that God has sons in the hundred and thousands since all who believe in God are referred to as SONS of God. it is a loosely used term in hebrew and is also used loosely in the English language. Another point is the fact that when Jesus supoosedly died, he said "father why have you forsaken me?" Why would he be talking to himself and asking himself that question? Why would he need to supposedly die for people's sins so that God (which is also apparently himself) doesnt punish humanity? Why would he need a blood sacrifice to forgive people from the wrath of himself? ITS A JOKE!!!
2)Why do you believe in the trinity when it is mentioned nowhere in the Bible and was in fact invented by the Romans 300 years after Jesus?
3)Why do you believe a book which has 100s of different versions of it and is clearly not preserved since it has been changed over the centuries so many times? The original Aramaic version doesnt even exist!
u waited thirty minutes. some of us have lives beyond being a troll.
ohh the real how u try but I am glad ur trying maybe u will understand how debates get and actually do some. Christians are not actively attacking Islam. we have diffing opinions sure what two religions don't but no we are not fighting.
a) u never asked a question. would u like to or are you going to crawl away back until this conversation dies like usual or will u grow a backbone and defend ur position?
b) I never said u insulted anyone. should I start calling u najam?
something I am trying to change and some others. we are not here to judge but to help.
Literally, finding a christian that will answer your questions without running is like looking for a needle in a mansion-sized haystack!
Neveralone is an example of the typical Christian. They run at the face of questions because everybody knows christians are notorious for dodging them. i did not insult anybody with my first comment yet he pathetically accused me of it. can you even read or are you just residing in plain denial of the facts?
Anyway, back on topic (and dont run neveralone), Christianity is flawed as a while from the ground up as a community and as a belief system. the only thing christians can really find to disagree with islam are their completely subjective and environmentally influenced outlooks on punishments for immorality. Even then, the only reason they oppose islam for those things is because they dont know shit about the bible otherwise they would know that the bible advocates for such punishments too and wouldnt be whining.
Regarding Nemi's comments on liberal "moral high ground", firstly its not a moral high ground at all and secondly, going too far on either side of the spectrum is extreme, that includes liberalism which is much too low on the graph.
said who? their husbands? :)
I wasn't blaming the deeds, just the eager judgement of others.
the dresses were considered dignified. though idk much of their history.
true but from Christian standpoint a lot of us definitely don't condone many things in the past. like the witch trials. a sad time of extreme paranoia? and greed.
not sure who started it, but does it matter? we did it just the same.
and yes, all cultures did some thing like that, I'm not complaining about that. I'm complaining about the hypocrisy of many conservatives looking down on other cultures while ignoring their own very similar and not too distant past.
as for Spartans, they were trying to raise warriors. it's absolutely brutal but it was more a deadly test than oppression. the practices I was pointing out were meant to transform people into pets. brutality Spartans are far worse, but at least they allowed for the potential of dignity.
didn't England start that? either way ill continue on this debate. every society has such things which they don't consider bad but to us now looks horrible. like foot binding and that neck stretching thing people did with those circle things in India. even our society is almost garenteed to have one. personally if we're going for worst custom I would say Spartans since they left there children with nothing to go and kill an animal when they came of age.
do u mean their dresses?
it was general Christian western society. many societies disparage woman, but I think the western wire cage was the worst. Chinese feet binding was also bad, but was only meant for royal women, not most.
the wire cage was exclusively done in western Christian cultures.
wasn't that general society?
and if you think a light silky hijab is bad, try a 25 pound wire dress that literally made you a prisoner completely dependant on your man to even get in a carriage. forget about the back damage it did in later years.
I'll take a hijab any day. we were worse.
I do love how many on the right point out islam's treatment of women and homosexuals when Christians, especially in the US didn't treat those groups that much better only a few decades ago.
btw, for your only recently acquired moral highground... thank a liberal :)
Flying horses are in Quaran. (Muhammed went to heaven on them)
flying horse? that's Greek mythology there.
Islam and Christianity:
I don't believe in imaginary friends, miracles, afterlife and so on...
Islam: I don't believe in flying horses.
Christianity: I don't believe something/someone could fly without a flying horse, airplane or parachute.
we don't despise anyone. yet again u have missed a big point in an attempt to insult someone
Accept it Christians, Islam is the revitalised, refined version of what your holy scriptures were meant to be. The fact that so many Christians despise Islam despite the fact that the 2 religions are virtually the same is despicable.