Islam was perfect.Why you hate Islam

February 7, 2016, 7:58 am

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The debate "Islam was perfect.Why you hate Islam" was started by syabab01 on February 7, 2016, 7:58 am. 11 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 25 people are on the disagree side. That might be enough to see the common perception. It looks like most people are against to this statement.

amana posted 1 argument, syabab01 posted 17 arguments to the agreers part.
ProudAmerican888 posted 2 arguments, historybuff posted 4 arguments, ghostofanidiot posted 1 argument to the disagreers part.

syabab01, amana, barman and 8 visitors agree.
ProudAmerican888, SowmithriSrinivas, historybuff, voltagerage_21, ghostofanidiot, The_Executioner, yanny_banny, jfischthecat, sickboyblonde, progressive, flash4311, RyanWakefield, ElisaXO, SwaggerPoptart and 11 visitors disagree.

syabab01
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holy Koran was not science book although it has many science fact.you still didn't understand.try ask Dr Zakir Naik for more information.He is better than me at explaining. Holy Koran was given to mankind to show sign of God existence. Just search at YouTube and type Dr Zakir Naik.

4 years, 5 months ago

it might be the poor English, but more likely its that your argument simply makes no sense. religion is not logical. it is an attempt to explain the world by men who didn't understand the world. they explained a natural world by use of a magical being that solves all their problems. your religion is no different from Christianity, Judaism, or the ancient Greeks for that matter. a sham created to make people feel better. it is in no way perfect.

4 years, 5 months ago

if there a place God show himself,everyone would be good and trust Him.God didn't show himself be,a use God want to test out believe to him.

4 years, 5 months ago
syabab01
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there's no science to show.where is the God.but,that can be explain by logic and holy Koran.

the holy Koran:in holy Koran,there wrote about the separation of land such as south America and Africa,big bang theory for example in Koran they said earth any sky once not seperated,skin's reseptor and many more.

the logic is:how do you believe there is sugar in your soft drink.the fat in your milk .you believe because someone especially scientist. what is not the number before 1?of course it will be zero right?1is for the existence of the universe ,0 was for the inventer of universe and is the God.

that's too many to explain.let's chat at Facebook.. that would be easy.

4 years, 5 months ago

I have. I have debated religion many times on this app. in that time I have never seen any argument that would lead me to believe there is a god. seeing as you have yet to provide any evidence at all, I would say you are the one who should investigate.

4 years, 5 months ago
syabab01
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try investigate clearly..

4 years, 5 months ago

The same reason why I hate religion all together. It's nothing more that superstition controlling the superstitious.

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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Islam is religion.
Muslim is people that their religion is Islam.
not all Muslim follow Islam's teach.

4 years, 6 months ago

bless are shown clearly when your death.

4 years, 6 months ago

haha i know. Islam is the religion. Muslims are the people. very confusing. they should be like all other religions, and have it simpler.

why is it that islam is the religion and Muslim is the people?

4 years, 6 months ago

for the last time Alex. islam is the religion. Muslims are the people. Islams is not a word. I've told you this before.

4 years, 6 months ago

what if your belief is your religion is fact?

syabab01
as a catholic
I don't hate Islams or other religions. Islams at least believe in God, better then you atheists.

Islam people have done bad things, but so do have people of other religions. Islams have a bad rep because of radicals in the middle east who kill people who aren't islam.
"then you will live with fear, not feel peaceful and lonely..."
Many atheists live a good life. and get reward in earth. they will get peace and happiness. God permits this, but rewards those who believe in him.

I would say that ISIS lives in fear, is alone, and not at peace, yet they are islam, and since they kill people without a moral reason, they will not find peace and will live in pain after they die.

4 years, 6 months ago

you say everything will be unveiled after death. do you have proof of that? are you messaging us from beyond the grave?

no one knows what happens after death. you cannot state with certainty anything about it. all you can say is what your religion tells you. but that is not fact, it is your belief.

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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don't you ever thing life after death?

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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everything would be unveil and proof when your death comes.

4 years, 6 months ago

I will live in fear, unpeacefully and lonely because I don't care for religion???

that's 110% not true! I am not scared of anything, I don't fear death, or what happens afterwards. I am quite happy with my life, therefore I am peaceful, and I am certainly not lonely!

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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then you will live with fear,not feel peaceful and lonely...

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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look at Iraq,Afghanistan, other country,the Bosnia, Vietnam,philiphine,bay of pig,..don't you aware?Paris assassination we're done by terrorists force just like Baruch Goldstein.

4 years, 6 months ago

I don't hate Islam, I hate all religions

4 years, 6 months ago

The USMC kills innocents? Last I recall, USMC did not murder nearly 200 innocent people in their homeland, like muslims did at the paris attacks.

4 years, 6 months ago

I don't hate Islam, I'm religious (saying it loosely, association with other 'religious' people often results in being considered an ******) but I can't get behind Islam. Partially because it is far too different from Christianity, the current belief held. The history can be difficult to discern, and I wont say that holy books can't be cheated for certain group's gain, but in places where a better lie could have been done and values that are certainly constructive I am no so willing to give up on. Also, have visited mosques with friends, and wondered why they knew very little about the bible, though it is often reasoned that the book has been changed for deceit, so records of history and men needed something to complete the message. Yet the Qur'an will often say in this format "This you already know, this is a detail that was misunderstood or important." without the original content.

If the Muslim conquests were viewed from outside the religion, thirteen large battles for over four hundred sixty years would certainly be deemed as a eventual threat for those actually conquered. Two thirds of the Christian world was fought on and taken during these times, and trade routes were chocked, the economy of much of the world was suffering due to lost time. The crusades, looking outside of religion, could be justified as retaking the land for any normal reason. A point I'd like to see is that nowadays Christians are vilified by the crusades, popular culture drawing parallels from crusades to greed or unjust persecution. Not every soldier is good, some are evil, even holding that a certain army's cause is justified. And certainly these problems stemmed from sins being considered 'retroactively removed' by one of the popes. Yet if it were understood that the crusades were a reaction from Muslim conquests in the same way it is portrayed as Christianity's greed, the eastern world would probably be in flames from Muslim disagreement.

I am not unwilling to see what you may say about history, if you could try justifying these conquests, but as you may justify by your religion, I am certain that God would justify keeping our own land in ours. Unfortunately, soldiers are soldiers, and they cannot be considered good or bad due to their teachings or cause, so it shouldn't be believed that injustices weren't done on the Muslim half at least.

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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have many wife because of they are too poor,too many woman than man, it will cause woman stay single if we use Christians way.

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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allow sex with animal?!where is your evidence ?!that only have at rabbi.

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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prophet Muhammad marry that girl,named Aisha we're above 18 years old,that 9 years old was incorrect because of many opinion of our ulama'.

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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don't you observe who they kill for..they kill only that threat Islam.the Persian,Romans,Crusaders..they only kill the soldiers not people...not like USMC,THEY KILLED MANY MUSLIM...

4 years, 6 months ago

Islam is far from perfect. It teaches to kill the Mushrikin (non believers) and Mohammed was a pedophile. He was married to a little girl and teaches us to have many wives. Also, Islam stands with Sharia law, which promotes cutting hand off for stealing an allows sex with animals...

4 years, 6 months ago

what about the conquest of Constantinople? the Muslims used violence to conquer. do you think that the caliphates became so large because they asked nicely? they conquered and killed millions and millions of people. where is the peacefulness I have heard described.

and I am not judging Islam by what I see on TV. I judge it by what it has done in the last thousand years or so. and it is just as bloody than any other religion.

4 years, 6 months ago

Islam was perfect because of the Holy Koran,Hadits and their prophets.

4 years, 6 months ago
syabab01
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dear history buff, Islam does not conquer with violence,look at mehmed II when he conquer Constantinople,does it make sense?I'm not sure you really an expert in history....

4 years, 6 months ago
amana
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the moslems are not perfect but the islam is perfect
dont judge the islam by what you see in tv or any other places
because Most of the times its untrue
(sorry for bad english :) )

4 years, 6 months ago

islam brought centuries if violent conquest and forcible conversion. it can't answer questions about the world any better than any other religion. in what way is it perfect?

4 years, 6 months ago
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