The debate "Israel sponsored terrorism" was started by
October 30, 2015, 1:49 am.
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At some point you will need to deal with the idea that the rest of the world is out to get you. There are definitely people out there who hate Pakistan, but your idea that everyone is spreading lies about Pakistan is more concerning than anything else you have said. It means that, no matter what proof anyone shows you, you will believe that you are right. That is a very dangerous and destructive way to live since it means you have decided that you are right no matter what anyone in the rest of the world thinks.
Just considered that
Pakistan is not like a Israel who killed lots of Palestinian therefore there is no comparison between Pakistan and Isreal
Because international media Mr. Zardari and your other examples all based on propagandas against Muslim and Pakistan
You for not believe the international media, you don't believe groups that study the middle east, you don't believe your own president or former military leader, who exactly would have to tell you that Pakistan supports terrorism for you to believe it?
Yes, but there is far more evidence of Pakistani support for terrorism on a global scale, and from many more sources. The President of the US did say they Pakistan was an important part of the war on terror, but that doesn't mean they are not also supporting terrorist groups that benefit them.
Yeah said this issue because Its reality and I give you lots of examples than you
your all examples based on propagandas
Majority of Pakistani nation know about the real of Zardari
I also give you lots of examples including American president
OK. I Understand English is not your first language but it is very hard to follow some of your statements. I cited examples from multiple nationalities, including your president, saying that Pakistan supported and created terrorism. You said that various Muslim groups accuse Israel of terrorism,and that those who criticize Pakistan are jealous.
Where do you see a joke?
Pakistan is biggest terrorist than Israel
Prove it you hates Pakistan
because Pakistan is only a dangerous country for Israel that's why some people make many propagandas about Pakistan but we don't care
we also believed in peace but if any enemy disturb our peace by propagandas so he/she should have to pay price
All over the world
I agreed it Pakistan is also behind on terrorism but Israel is a terrorist country all over the world
I give you lots of examples
then you've no answered my examples
then you said this joke
And we have agreed that Israel has supported terrorist attacks. No one is denying that. Pakistan is worse, as admitted by people in your own government and military, as well as all over the world.
Mostly Pakistani nation hates Asif Ali Zardari than other people said Pakistan is a terrorist country because they hates Pakistan
there are many muslim said Israel is terrorist country
so do you agree?
Iraq also said Israel is terrorist country
Organization Islamic Corporation said Israel is a terrorist country
In 2009 Obama also said when his Palestine tour that The role of Israel is a cruel for Palestinian
all Palestinian said Israel is a terrorist so do you face reality
world's no.1 ISI?
all agencies also surrendered against world's no. 1 ISI and many Pakistani paid media also jealous from world's no. 1 ISI
the comparison of terrorism between Pakistan and Israel
so I think there is no comparison indeed
Pakistan also helped lots of countries in the history
Pakistan also helped shaan & Egypt when terrorist israel was attack on "Eid day"
Israel helped any country like Pakistan?
Israel also support terrorism like
MOSAD was helped Indian army in sayachin
if Pakistan is a terrorist country?
so why Obama accept that Pakistan played vital role war against terrorism
The Pakistani president Asif Zardari admitted in 2009 that Pakistan created terrorist groups.
In 2008 the Saban Center for Middle East Policy said that Pakistan was "with the possible exception of Iran, perhaps the world's most active sponsor or terrorist groups."
Author Daniel Byman said that "Pakistan is probably today's most active sponsor of terrorism."
There is satellite images of terrorist camps within Pakistan and captured terrorists in Kashmir have admitted to being trained in Pakistan.
The Council on Foreign Relations says that" ISI has provided covert but we'll documented support to terrorist groups active in Kashmir, including the al-Qaeda affiliate Jaish-e-Mohammed.
This was after a very brief look into who claims that Pakistan supports terrorism. Will you face reality now?
Similarly you don't agree that Israel is not biggest sponsored terrorism
so I don't agree about Pakistan
you don't accept the truth
you don't face reality
so how do you feel now?
Yes many countries have supported terrorism. No Israel is not the biggest supporter of terrorism. That is why we pointed out that Pakistan is known to support terrorists. If you have research that supports your claim, provide it. If not, do your research before making unverified claims or we will continue to call you on it.
not only Pakistan India America and many other advanced countries behind on all terrorism
but Israel is biggest terrorist country of the world
You have admitted that both countries have sponsored terrorism. That was the point we were trying to make and you seemed to struggle with. We have repeatedly said that neither country was innocent. You are the one singling out Israel. Now that you have admitted that Pakistan is just as bad, you have agreed with exactly what we were trying to say.
how Pakistan is a major supporter of terrorist?
I give you lots of examples and its reality of history
you not able to face this reality so say according to Wikipedia and other people that Pakistan sponsored terrorist??? lolz
you believed wikipedia
people edits daily Wikipedia
and who say Pakistan is no. 1 terrorist there are lot of shits countries said about because the role of media is very bad
I laugh (because I am amazed) at the clash of people here.
But seriously though, it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. You need to view this not as a citizen of any country but as a third entity.
Please don't just put out sugar-coated arguments. Accept the innevitable: that both countries have supported terrorism; and don't use any flavored candy to make one country sound nicer because of their so called goals/intention; because we can't guarantee it is absolute.
no one is saying that anyone else is innocent. only you are saying that. we are saying that Pakistan is a major supporter of terrorist groups. most of those terrorist groups kill Muslims. there is a Wikipedia page called Pakistan and state sponsored terrorism. take a look at it. they are the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism. (possibly 2nd to Iran)
which terrorist activity?
Pakistan support Palestine its a terrorist activity?
Pakistan support Kashmir its a terrorist activity?
Pakistan helped many stages of Saudia Arabia its a terrorist activity?
Pakistan had killed lots of Russian in Soviet Union its terrorist activity?
Pakistan was help Egypt, Sham and Palestine in 1968 when Israel killed Muslim and Muslim's air force on "Eid day" its a terrorist activity?
Pakistan killed American CIA in Afghan-America war and another side also support America (in this war the role of Pakistan was like a double agent) its terrorist activity?
OK so I think you all Non Muslims countries and non Muslim are innocent and we are a terrorist???????
I give you many examples about Israel's terrorist activities
Have you looked into the terrorist activities Pakistan has supported? They have a long history of doing so, and it is well known. We are not arguing that Israel has not, we are pointing out that they are far from the only nation to do so.
what was the role of America in Iraq & Afghan wars
America killed lot of innocent Muslim
what was the role of Russia. It killed lot of Chechens in bombing?
Israel killed lot of Muslims than Pakistan.
Your comparison is totally wrong.
many times Pakistan helped Palestinian and other Islamic countries
We are agreeing that Isreal has funded terrorism, and Isreal has admitted as much. We are simply pointing out that by singling out Isreal you are making it appear that they are the only ones who have done so, which is not accurate.
Yes. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are friends. they both spend billions arming terrorists to kill people. alot of those people are civilians. most of those people are Muslim. that makes Saudi Arabia and Pakistan responsible for way more Muslim deaths than Israel.
Pakistan has far more???
lolz Pakistan hasn't killed lot of innocent people like Israel
Pakistan also helped America in Soviet union war
Pakistan also helped Palestine in 6 day sky war
and you called Pakistani are terrorist???
Pakistan and Saudia Arabia are friends
Iran is our enemy
no one is denying that israel has sponsored terrorism. Pakistan has sponsored far more. if you want to point fingers at terrorists you can start with Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Pakistani also sunni what do u mean
we don't support any terrorist we send many people in Kashmir and Palestine who revenge our enemies. you change this topic
this topic is about Israel
Pakistan supports sunni terrorist groups all over the world. those groups kill alot of civilians. Pakistan is responsible for that.
Pakistan isn't like a Israel who killed lot of innocent people without any reason
no the role of Pakistan is like double agent but its only for America not all over the world
you're right. Pakistan is a critical part of the war on terror. they are funding terrorist groups. they are helping terrorists kill people.
Pakistan trained many people for Kashmir and Palestine Syria etc yeah and we'll sent many people to killed those people who killed Muslim
Pakistan Also against on terrorism Obama also accepted that Pakistan play a vital role against war on terrorism
They absolutely have, but the last record I can see of it was in 1954 and the only person killed in the bombings they had people carry out was one of the bombers whose bomb went off prematurely, the two agents who committed suicide after being captured, and two agents executed by Egypt.
Pakistan on the other hand has openly admitted to training and supporting terrorists and was declared the most active state sponsor of terrorism in the world in 2008.
I agreed because Isreal has admitted to carrying out a terrorist attack, but there are far worse nations out there for funding terrorism.