The debate "It's pretty screwed up that if you happen to be born black your under constant assumption of guilt" was started by
May 7, 2016, 1:57 pm.
13 people are on the agree side of this discussion, while 7 people are on the disagree side.
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It looks like most of the people in this community are on the agreeing side of this statement.
Nemiroff posted 6 arguments to the agreers part.
Nemiroff posted 2 arguments to the disagreers part.
RyanWakefield, ReadyToBegin, jt5542002, Max, Nemiroff, josh_rocks, Chanakya and 6 visitors agree.
Rogersgirl75, Claystation, enro, Bodaciouslady16, sabrina and 2 visitors disagree.
As i said, a happiness for who I am.
and what does that pride mean to you?
Im proud of it because I find pride within myself. The traits that has defined be so greatly are the ones I didn't choose. I'm a man, American, white, and so many more things. Since they are such big parts of me, not being proud of them would deteriorate my self image.
if you click the "replied to" button on top of my post you will see what statements I was actually replying to.
The author is condemning the prejudice, not discriminating against the race.
there is nothing wrong with having pride in one's heritage and/or home.
I am proud of being an American as well as my ethnicity and country of origin.
all of my people have gone through great hardship, persevered, and prospered.
so what your saying is that although you acknowledge that many black people are as poor as you and have disproportionate police attention (often in the form of traffic tickets they obviously can't afford), a significantly lower chance of getting hired (with an identical resume), and constabt suspicion over otherwise ordinary tasks (like going into a store), why would they have any reason to complain?!?
being white is by no means a free ride, and under no condition would I call these things privilege, but nonwhite people within the same income bracket as you have it worse than you in unfair ways that are not a privilege for white people, but discrimination against black people.
the term white privilege is stupid and wrong, but the ills it represents are real. and I find it funny that in a thread where I believe Noone has even mentioned white privilege, but just a specific screwed up situation, you try to make it about yourself instead of judging the situation on its own merits.
but why are you proud? you didn't do anything. you just won the proverbial genetic lottery and got born into a wealthy country.
Im proud to be an American. I was born into that
No one can control the bloodline they are born into. As such it's foolish to take pride in something you had no hand in
Can we please quit with this victim mentality bullshit. I'm a white guy. I'm currently unemployed with practically no money to my name please tell me how my being white benefits me here?
Look I'm not gonna act like people who are black don't have some hardships in this country and that they aren't disciminsted against by the cops because they do and they are. However this victim attitude is just all to similar SJW movement's. " we were once an oppressed minority, now we have all the same rights but are still oppressed! Fund my women's bullshit in video games series!"
no, affects is the proper term.
they were affected, not effected.
correcting people on typos is pathetic enough, getting it wrong just make you look like an idiot.
you have got to stop bringing up old threads to correct grammar. we will report you.
that is very good, but you still have to realize that a majority of Americans do not think like you, and most of that person's life is colored by those experiences. it affects people down to their subconscious and has many consequences.
I never think a black person in a store is a criminal guess that's born racism. A black person in a store needs a drink or food or smokes or alcohol not to rob the place. No reason to ever stereotype a person. That's just people who do that, but not all people.
jt, who says that?
and do you think that concern equals being treated like a criminal in every store you visit? or every time you apply for a job?
I understand it. it suck to be white and have everyone think you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. and that any success I may have had was because I am white.
It depends on the person I think, like if a child is born and their parents split up afterward they can still have guilt. Guilt isn't dependent to ethnicity but a person to person basis. A black person can live their entire lives without ever having a feeling of guilt.
I'm not talking about personal feelings of one self. I'm talking about automatic negative perception from others. something completely outside of the individual's control
People don't just happen to born black though. It's not like Asians or white people are mysteriously have black children. There's no reason for black people to feel guilt, since many come from a long line of ancestry they can be proud of.